SDS: Vols have best offense & defense in the East

#27
#27
fade route said:
So we are better than UF on both sides of the ball and we play at home........no excuses for losing to them this year. None.
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Uh, yes, correct. Unless we lose, in which case you'll see a ton of guys in here saying the reason we lost is because UF is more talented. And that's before they get to the part about how we're still a young and somewhat inexperienced team.
 
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#28
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is this one of those threads we can go back to and remember how much fun the pre season was should we go 9-3 next season?
 
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KBVol said:
Uh, yes, correct. Unless we lose, in which case you'll see a ton of guys in here saying the reason we lost is because UF is more talented. And that's before they get to the part about how we're still a young and somewhat inexperienced team.
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Sad, but true.
 
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LouderVol said:
No way LSU is the best offense in the SEC.
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i don't think there's any "sure things" on offense really.

LSU, GA, TN and Bama should all have good to great running games.
FL has WR's and RB's, and maybe their qb situation is addition by subtraction? but the QB is definitely a "?". GA may have the highest ceiling...

none of them, TN with probably the best shot at given the experience factor, have a proven passing game.

Ole Miss has potential as well....Kelly should have a good year, just not sold that Ole Miss will be a 10 win team again.

ARK replacing their QB, but should also have a solid running game.

it's right there for the taking. i have to think there's a half dozen teams in the SEC thinking "why not us?"....
 
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On paper UTs offense should be 1 no worse than 2.
Defensively 2 no worse than 3. (factoring Shoop)

No reason not to win the east and be plenty good enough to win the conference.
 
#35
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BigOrangeLoyalist said:
I would say...

Offensively:
1. LSU
2. Tennessee
3. Ole Miss
4. Bama
5. Georgia
6. TAMU
7. Arkansas
8. Florida
9. Auburn
10. Kentucky
11. Miss St
12. South Carolina
13. Vandy
14. Mizzou

Defensively:
1. Bama
2. Tennessee
3. LSU
4. Florida
5. Mizzou
6. Georgia
7. Auburn
8. Ole Miss
9. Miss St
10. Vandy
11. Arkansas
12. TAMU
13. SCAR
14. Kentucky

Granted, this is all pre-season speculation. LSU at the top of the offense depends on how Harris plays. Us at number two on the defense depends on how well we've adjusted to Shoop. ETC.
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LSU first on offense? Can I have some of that crack you're smoking?

I'm not saying we're first, but LSU is one sprained ankle from scoring less than 10 points a game, and they're already one dimensional.

Until they find a QB they will barely be a top 5 SEC offense.
 
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BeecherVol said:
On paper UTs offense should be 1 no worse than 2.
Defensively 2 no worse than 3. (factoring Shoop)

No reason not to win the east and be plenty good enough to win the conference.
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i agree. but i will say this...our schedule is might tougher than either FL or GA's....if there's a path for either of them to win the East, it really only takes one of them beating us, and we still have the west opponents to deal with.

i think it's unlikely, but still possible for us to lose 3 of the 4 games during that Sept/Oct stretch. IF that were to happen, it opens the door for the winner of the UGA/FL game to go to ATL.

bottom line.....if we're going to split that 4 games....it'd be better to win the 1st two and gag the other two.

FL's losable games TN, LSU, GA and ARK
GA's...TN, Aub, OLe Miss, FL
TN's. FL, GA, aTm, Bama

should be interesting to say the least. but is there a TN fan that wouldn't trade West Schedules with FL or GA????
 
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jakez4ut said:
i don't think there's any "sure things" on offense really.

LSU, GA, TN and Bama should all have good to great running games.
FL has WR's and RB's, and maybe their qb situation is addition by subtraction? but the QB is definitely a "?". GA may have the highest ceiling...

none of them, TN with probably the best shot at given the experience factor, have a proven passing game.

Ole Miss has potential as well....Kelly should have a good year, just not sold that Ole Miss will be a 10 win team again.

ARK replacing their QB, but should also have a solid running game.

it's right there for the taking. i have to think there's a half dozen teams in the SEC thinking "why not us?"....
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The QB cycle favors UT. The better teams either don't have one or are waiting for one to show up. Having said that, for UT to win the conference Dobbs needs to take a substantial step (along with the WRs) but he shouldn't be making mistakes that green QB will either.

The defense has plenty of talent, experience, and depth (less LB) and I believe they have a better DC leading them.
 
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BeecherVol said:
The QB cycle favors UT. The better teams either don't have one or are waiting for one to show up. Having said that, for UT to win the conference Dobbs needs to take a substantial step (along with the WRs) but he shouldn't be making mistakes that green QB will either.

The defense has plenty of talent, experience, and depth (less LB) and I believe they have a better DC leading them.
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agreed. my two biggest concerns are the passing game improvement you mentioned, and the gauntlet we have to face in that 4 game stretch. i look at what our competition has to navigate, vs. what we do, and it at least gives me enough pause to think this isn't as sure a thing as i'd like to believe....
 
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jakez4ut said:
i agree. but i will say this...our schedule is might tougher than either FL or GA's....if there's a path for either of them to win the East, it really only takes one of them beating us, and we still have the west opponents to deal with.

i think it's unlikely, but still possible for us to lose 3 of the 4 games during that Sept/Oct stretch. IF that were to happen, it opens the door for the winner of the UGA/FL game to go to ATL.

bottom line.....if we're going to split that 4 games....it'd be better to win the 1st two and gag the other two.

FL's losable games TN, LSU, GA and ARK
GA's...TN, Aub, OLe Miss, FL
TN's. FL, GA, aTm, Bama

should be interesting to say the least. but is there a TN fan that wouldn't trade West Schedules with FL or GA????
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UTs west schedule is tougher followed by UF and UGA in that group. I think UGA is the question. UF has more questions to answer but that hasn't mattered in a long time either.
 
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jakez4ut said:
agreed. my two biggest concerns are the passing game improvement you mentioned, and the gauntlet we have to face in that 4 game stretch. i look at what our competition has to navigate, vs. what we do, and it at least gives me enough pause to think this isn't as sure a thing as i'd like to believe....
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Yeah, that stretch is tough. If you have to line those 4 up in a row they are lined up the best way they can be tho. I may be banking on UT just being better than both and both UF and UGA losing a west game.
 
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BeecherVol said:
UTs west schedule is tougher followed by UF and UGA in that group. I think UGA is the question. UF has more questions to answer but that hasn't mattered in a long time either.
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a lot really depends on how good, or bad, you think either of those two are going to be?

i don't see either of them being worse than an 8 win team this year, but i don't think both will be.

i think GA has the higher ceiling of the two...and that's just because of the qb's potential. they're solid everywhere else.

UF has more holes to fill, QB and on the front 7. but you're right, that hasn't mattered in the past.
 
#42
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BeecherVol said:
Yeah, that stretch is tough. If you have to line those 4 up in a row they are lined up the best way they can be tho. I may be banking on UT just being better than both and both UF and UGA losing a west game.
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hi, battered Vol here, and i just can't get that thru my thick skull right now.:crazy:
 
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As mentioned many times Georgia is the wildcard. They have unknowns, but they have had great recruiting classes and have solid players returning. I hope Kirby coaches as well as some of the other former Bama assistants, but this game worries me. Don't overlook the Dogs.
 
#47
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LouderVol said:
No way LSU is the best offense in the SEC.
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Agree. They have everything in spades, OL, WRs, RBs....except for the most important piece, a top notch QB who can be relied on to win football games with his arm if need be.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i agree. but i will say this...our schedule is might tougher than either FL or GA's....if there's a path for either of them to win the East, it really only takes one of them beating us, and we still have the west opponents to deal with.

i think it's unlikely, but still possible for us to lose 3 of the 4 games during that Sept/Oct stretch. IF that were to happen, it opens the door for the winner of the UGA/FL game to go to ATL.

bottom line.....if we're going to split that 4 games....it'd be better to win the 1st two and gag the other two.

FL's losable games TN, LSU, GA and ARK
GA's...TN, Aub, OLe Miss, FL
TN's. FL, GA, aTm, Bama

should be interesting to say the least. but is there a TN fan that wouldn't trade West Schedules with FL or GA????
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The top of the West is wide open this year. Bama, Ole Miss, and LSU all have about the same chance of winning it. For the 1st time I think this balances out our west opponent with UGA and UF.
 
#50
#50
wolfej said:
LSU first on offense? Can I have some of that crack you're smoking?

I'm not saying we're first, but LSU is one sprained ankle from scoring less than 10 points a game, and they're already one dimensional.

Until they find a QB they will barely be a top 5 SEC offense.
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I think I put LSU first so I wouldn't sound bias by putting Tennessee first. You're somewhat right though... as someone else pointed out, they are loaded at OL, WR, and RB, but everything depends on how Harris plays. All the reports I've seen said he's playing much better than he has, but until it's proven on the field, a Fournette injury will send them into chaos.

Bama and GA have untested QBs and Ole Miss doesn't have a backfield.. plus losing Treadwell and Tunsil will hurt. Yeah, we're probably the best offense in the SEC, because we have all the pieces!
 
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