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And yet look who you have as choices for president from the two parties. Yeah you are right, great system working swimmingly. The system is more than rules, it is how it alienates not only people with brains that care but people without either.
 
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bignewt said:
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Catbone you got played, son.
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Doesn't mean a damn thing.
 
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bignewt said:
And yet look who you have as choices for president from the two parties. Yeah you are right, great system working swimmingly. The system is more than rules, it is how it alienates not only people with brains that care but people without either.
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I don't like the candidates, but the system worked just fine. Trump and Clinton won their nominations. It's not the system's fault we have them to choose from. It's the people's fault. I'm just not down with the whole "burn it to the ground" mentality just because things don't go my way. And trust me, things don't go my way a lot politically speaking. There are things within the system, however, that can be done to help get the country on track, things that I believe most people can be persuaded to support. It's time for a Convention of the States.
 
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Skullbone said:
I don't like the candidates, but the system worked just fine. Trump and Clinton won their nominations. It's not the system's fault we have them to choose from. It's the people's fault. I'm just not down with the whole "burn it to the ground" mentality just because things don't go my way. And trust me, things don't go my way a lot politically speaking. There are things within the system, however, that can be done to help get the country on track, things that I believe most people can be persuaded to support. It's time for a Convention of the States.
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Yes.
 
#1,883
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Catbone said:
Blame the people ok..
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I saw that as well.

Which people - the group that voted for who they wanted to be President, or, the group that did not vote that were registered, or, the group that could legally vote that did not register, or, the illegals and ineligibles per the Constitution that voted for candidates, or, the group that defied the party bosses, and/or ...?

The people spoke in spite of the system. The people overrode the security mechanisms set up by the party bosses. The Dems are being exposed even more so for their corrupted system.

So does the establishment GOP throw American citizens under the bus? I guess I am being an evil nationalist populist because I support the lesser of evils that may prove not to be evil at all.
 
#1,884
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BaldBiker said:
Don't worry about it man. You have 33 post. People are going to question you. They don't know you and you haven't established a relationship on here with anyone. It's natural for people to doubt.

Time will tell whether you are right or wrong...and even then it won't prove that you were right or wrong today. 17 year old boys can and may change their minds. GFW will tell you himself that he's missed on a few that a few weeks earlier were solid as could be.

It's recruiting. Things change all the time. Keep bringing the info. Those that choose to believe you, will.

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Btw, can't really believe BaldBiker...frequent stabbings have left him anemic and a little loopy.
Tifwiw :hi:

Hey BaldBiker, if you come down for the aggie game, lemme know. I will keep a suture set close by. No need to sit in an aggie ER :)
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
Btw, can't really believe BaldBiker...frequent stabbings have left him anemic and a little loopy.
Tifwiw :hi:

Hey BaldBiker, if you come down for the aggie game, lemme know. I will keep a suture set close by. No need to sit in an aggie ER :)
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Lol....I'll keep that in mind.



Edit: I don't know why I keep giving you ass holes likes, but I do. :)
 
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BaldBiker said:
Lol....I'll keep that in mind.



Edit: I don't know why I keep giving you ass holes likes, but I do. :)
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Are ass hole likes different than the regular likes? Or are we on a whole different topic now?

Slowly edges back against the wall just in case...:)
 
#1,889
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I'm just surprised Cruz made it as far as he did. That alone is a testament to to the quality of the field this year. Blame the system, the people, both, or whoever you want. It's a pretty crap year for presidential candidates. Worst in decades.
 
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Skullbone said:
You couldn't be more wrong. Facts matter despite election results. We're not talking about mere campaign jabs. We're talking about purposely lying to cause people to lose confidence in legitimate institutions. This kind of garbage is what Obama thrived on and it has longer lasting consequences than the primary race. Oh, it matters alright.
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I agree. Truth is its own justification. Just because it's no longer immediately applicable to this primary doesn't mean proper education of the system doesn't matter.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I'm just surprised Cruz made it as far as he did. That alone is a testament to to the quality of the field this year. Blame the system, the people, both, or whoever you want. It's a pretty crap year for presidential candidates. Worst in decades.
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It was the best field of Republican candidates I can ever remember. Now the Democrat field was terrible.
 
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Vols4us said:
I saw that as well.

Which people - the group that voted for who they wanted to be President, or, the group that did not vote that were registered, or, the group that could legally vote that did not register, or, the illegals and ineligibles per the Constitution that voted for candidates, or, the group that defied the party bosses, and/or ...?

The people spoke in spite of the system. The people overrode the security mechanisms set up by the party bosses. The Dems are being exposed even more so for their corrupted system.

So does the establishment GOP throw American citizens under the bus? I guess I am being an evil nationalist populist because I support the lesser of evils that may prove not to be evil at all.
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The "system" is set up to only allow people who are owned by the party or people who are immensely, independently wealthy to even be an option for the American people to choose.

So the people did not speak in spite of the system, the system made sure the people had only member of the elite class from which to choose.
 
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You guys realize that anyone can run for President, right? You don't have to run as a Republican or a Democrat. The problem isn't that we're only allowed to choose from the "elite" class. The problem is that we choose to choose from the "elite" class. People are free to vote the homeless man on the corner if they like. The reason he loses isn't because the system is rigged for "elites", but rather that most people want an "elite" person and no one votes for the homeless guy, who coincidentally doesn't know jack about how to run a country or how to diligently run a campaign and present his good ideas to the whole nation. The key is not to destroy the system and all it's institutions. The key is in the hand of each John Q. Citizen. The system didn't give us Barrack Hussein Obama. A whole bunch of average, every day people did. If you really want someone to blame, blame the media for not giving the people more coverage and information on 3rd party candidates and more honest coverage of the facts and substance. But even if they did, I'm afraid most people would still choose in similar fashion as today because they want a prime time, top tier person. It's almost like we're trying to fill a movie character role of a President instead of hiring a man to do a job.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
Maybe the largest, but not the best.
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Well, I respect your opinion, but which slate of candidates in the past would you say was superior? I looked out across the field and saw a new candidate for everyone for once. If you're a Republican in any way there was a good solid representative for you in the race. It split our votes in a million directions, but there were several candidates who in any other cycle could have been a winner.
 
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Skullbone said:
You guys realize that anyone can run for President, right? You don't have to run as a Republican or a Democrat. The problem isn't that we're only allowed to choose from the "elite" class. The problem is that we choose to choose from the "elite" class. People are free to vote the homeless man on the corner if they like. The reason he loses isn't because the system is rigged for "elites", but rather that most people want an "elite" person and no one votes for the homeless guy, who coincidentally doesn't know jack about how to run a country or how to diligently run a campaign and present his good ideas to the whole nation. The key is not to destroy the system and all it's institutions. The key is in the hand of each John Q. Citizen. The system didn't give us Barrack Hussein Obama. A whole bunch of average, every day people did. If you really want someone to blame, blame the media for not giving the people more coverage and information on 3rd party candidates and more honest coverage of the facts and substance. But even if they did, I'm afraid most people would still choose in similar fashion as today because they want a prime time, top tier person. It's almost like we're trying to fill a movie character role of a President instead of hiring a man to do a job.
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Maybe in a perfectly ideal and non existent world, but in today's society and culture, you need millions upon millions to have a legitimate chance at running. A large portion of those millions are supplied by our taxes, but they only go to the two top parties,which is a rule set up by the top 2 parties.
 
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