2016 Election Thread Part Deux

[hog88]

At what point does the GOP stop their Anti-Trump rally and begin to see that the inevitable is coming and begin to back him? Is it after Indiana polls close?
Talk about eating crow....

I don't think they will. I'm beginning to believe they will throw in the towel as they did in '08 with the McCain nomination and concentrate on the down ticket.

 

[lawgator1]

At what point does the GOP stop their Anti-Trump rally and begin to see that the inevitable is coming and begin to back him? Is it after Indiana polls close?
Talk about eating crow....

It's too late. They'll have to back off bashing him so relentlessly, but no one will believe them if they start saying they support him. Everyone loves a winner, and I guess if he wins they'll try to mend fences. But even then, in the real power circles, he will be ostracized.

 

[Grand Vol]

Compared to the waffling Trump has done this means what? Politicians say stuff like this bc it's a part of the campaign process.

For real? I think you take me for a Trump supporter. And I am not in the least.

However, it's yet another example of the pandering Hillary will do regardless of the situation. How in the hell can she go on record by saying "we're going to put a lot of coal companies out of business" and then go on to campaign in West Virginia of all places and say "I misspoke" less than two months later?

It's pure pandering BS and you know it.

 

[UTCVol]

Donald Trump Implies Ted Cruz's Father Helped Assassinate JFK

I'm at a loss. lol:

 

[Burhead]

So with the nomination process more or less decided (I don't think the GOP goes contested now) what should we expect at the conventions. I was reading yesterday that both Philly and Cleveland received $50 million in Justice Department grants to buy equipment. Cleveland is using $20 million for equipment (buying additional riot suits, batons, tactical armor, barricades, etc) and the remainder on personnel expenses. In addition they are trying to recruit suburban officers to assist and I've seen the total force requirements for the RNC as high as 5,000 officers. Given Trump's ability to attract the lowest common denominator among the protesters I expect violence to occur during the convention week. So are we going to see Chicago '68 level violence or do you think nothing will happen at all? In addition do you think we'll see anything from the DNC this year from Bernie supporters?

 

[FLVOL69]

For real? I think you take me for a Trump supporter. And I am not in the least.

However, it's yet another example of the pandering Hillary will do regardless of the situation. How in the hell can she go on record by saying "we're going to put a lot of coal companies out of business" and then go on to campaign in West Virginia of all places and say "I misspoke" less than two months later?

It's pure pandering BS and you know it.

She does it to all her constituents..

 

[Vol8188]

Donald Trump Implies Ted Cruz's Father Helped Assassinate JFK

I'm at a loss. lol:

This reminds me of when the onion came out and said they were no longer going to write satire about Trump, because they felt like they were just giving him ideas.

 

[lawgator1]

Stumble, stumble Hillary...

Clinton confronted by laid-off coal worker at West Virginia campaign stop | Fox News



Oh?

Clinton: 'We're Going to Put a Lot of Coal Miners and Coal Companies Out of Business' | The Weekly Standard

I'm not sure how your comments could have been a mistake...other than you now pandering to yet another crowd.

Luckily coal miners see right through her nonsense. And she's certainly not helping Joe Manchin in the process either.

It is indeed a pretty pathetic walk-back effort by her. If you are going to go into W.Va. and face miners, when you have said over and over again that you aim to reduce our reliance on coal and inevitably hurt that industry, you ought to expect these questions and be prepared to defend your position against a hostile crowd.

This weak sauce "what i meant was" is just painful to listen to because its an obvious lie.

 

[MT LeConte]

For real? I think you take me for a Trump supporter. And I am not in the least.

However, it's yet another example of the pandering Hillary will do regardless of the situation. How in the hell can she go on record by saying "we're going to put a lot of coal companies out of business" and then go on to campaign in West Virginia of all places and say "I misspoke" less than two months later?

It's pure pandering BS and you know it.

Hillary is an idiot. She should proudly take ownership of her "out of business" statement. Coal is popular only in a few counties of a few states. Most of America realizes that coal is an expensive, dirty and non renewable source of energy. It hasn't even been good for miners and mining towns. The miners hardly eked out a living while Mr. Peabody and a few others made off with the wealth.

I'm not saying any politician should abandon a segment of society or a region but bringing a little education to Appalachia would go a long way toward solving some of their problems.

 

[Grand Vol]

It is indeed a pretty pathetic walk-back effort by her. If you are going to go into W.Va. and face miners, when you have said over and over again that you aim to reduce our reliance on coal and inevitably hurt that industry, you ought to expect these questions and be prepared to defend your position against a hostile crowd.

This weak sauce "what i meant was" is just painful to listen to because its an obvious lie.

Wait...did you just not defend Hillary?

Are you okay? Need to see a doctor or something?

 

[FLVOL69]

It is indeed a pretty pathetic walk-back effort by her. If you are going to go into W.Va. and face miners, when you have said over and over again that you aim to reduce our reliance on coal and inevitably hurt that industry, you ought to expect these questions and be prepared to defend your position against a hostile crowd.

This weak sauce "what i meant was" is just painful to listen to because its an obvious lie.

Finally coming to your senses?

 

[Grand Vol]

So with the nomination process more or less decided (I don't think the GOP goes contested now) what should we expect at the conventions. I was reading yesterday that both Philly and Cleveland received $50 million in Justice Department grants to buy equipment. Cleveland is using $20 million for equipment (buying additional riot suits, batons, tactical armor, barricades, etc) and the remainder on personnel expenses. In addition they are trying to recruit suburban officers to assist and I've seen the total force requirements for the RNC as high as 5,000 officers. Given Trump's ability to attract the lowest common denominator among the protesters I expect violence to occur during the convention week. So are we going to see Chicago '68 level violence or do you think nothing will happen at all? In addition do you think we'll see anything from the DNC this year from Bernie supporters?

Two part answer.

First the DNC convention. I think you'll see a lot of Bernie supporters playing the same role as Ron Paul supporters have in the past. Get their message known and out there, but not in a violent way.

As for the GOP convention, yes I'd imagine there will be violence and protests. Sponsored in part by the normal riffraff of leftist groups. How out of control it gets is another matter entirely. I think with the overwhelming presence of police at the convention, most protesters won't get out of line as much as you'd think. However, when you take the professional instigators and add them into the mix, you'll have all sorts of YouTube worthy film.

 

[hog88]

Hillary is an idiot. She should proudly take ownership of her "out of business" statement. Coal is popular only in a few counties of a few states. Most of America realizes that coal is an expensive, dirty and non renewable source of energy. It hasn't even been good for miners and mining towns. The miners hardly eked out a living while Mr. Peabody and a few others made off with the wealth.

I'm not saying any politician should abandon a segment of society or a region but bringing a little education to Appalachia would go a long way toward solving some of their problems.

WUT?

View attachment c_wages_state_industries.pdf

Coal Mining Industry Wages, Hourly Wage Rate | PayScale

 

[RikidyBones]

Two part answer.

First the DNC convention. I think you'll see a lot of Bernie supporters playing the same role as Ron Paul supporters have in the past. Get their message known and out there, but not in a violent way.

Like pepper spraying kids and the elderly?

 

[Grand Vol]

Like pepper spraying kids and the elderly?

Only at the GOP convention.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Trump Trifecta!
Keady, Knight, and Holtz endorse

How in the world did they understand what Holtz was saying?

 

[volfanjustin]

Donald Trump Implies Ted Cruz's Father Helped Assassinate JFK

I'm at a loss. lol:

Little know facts: he also helped set up 9/11, stage Sandy Hook and helped fake the landing on the moon

 

[theFallGuy]

Donald Trump Implies Ted Cruz's Father Helped Assassinate JFK

I'm at a loss. lol:

sadly Trump supporters will believe it

 

[1972 Grad]

Hillary is an idiot. She should proudly take ownership of her "out of business" statement. Coal is popular only in a few counties of a few states. Most of America realizes that coal is an expensive, dirty and non renewable source of energy. It hasn't even been good for miners and mining towns. The miners hardly eked out a living while Mr. Peabody and a few others made off with the wealth.

I'm not saying any politician should abandon a segment of society or a region but bringing a little education to Appalachia would go a long way toward solving some of their problems.

When I used to run a wholesale route in SW Virginia during the 90's, the miners were very well paid compared to most workers with the same level of education.

 

[1972 Grad]

How in the world did they understand what Holtz was saying?

They are true football fans.

 

[lawgator1]

Wait...did you just not defend Hillary?

Are you okay? Need to see a doctor or something?

I willingly criticize her when she deserves it, and she deserved it for this.

Unlike some of your brethren, I can criticize negatives but also appreciate other qualities, in the same person, at the same time.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I willingly criticize her when she deserves it, and she deserved it for this.

Unlike some of your brethren, I can criticize negatives but also appreciate other qualities, in the same person, at the same time.

The only positive about her. ONLY is that she is married to a Rhodes scholar in economics. That's it. Period. She has absolutely no redeeming qualities of her own. Zero
Zilch.nada.nothing. I could list negatives until I died of old age though. She is a waste of flesh.

 

[carlos86]

I don't think they will. I'm beginning to believe they will throw in the towel as they did in '08 with the McCain nomination and concentrate on the down ticket.

Protecting the House is the goal now. The White House and Senate are lost with Trump at the top of the ticket. It doesn't help that 52 of the seats Republicans hold are in districts Obama won in 2012 which will make holding them more different.

 

[hog88]

I willingly criticize her when she deserves it, and she deserved it for this.

Unlike some of your brethren, I can criticize negatives but also appreciate other qualities, in the same person, at the same time.

Please share these appreciable qualities you see in Hillary.

 

[hog88]

Protecting the House is the goal now. The White House and Senate are lost with Trump at the top of the ticket. It doesn't help that 52 of the seats Republicans hold are in districts Obama won in 2012 which will make holding them more different.

Trump is not nor will be the reason the Republicans lose the Senate. It is the POS Senators themselves who are at fault. It's dishonest to say otherwise.

Personally, I'm ready for the Republican party to be gutted.