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#252
#252
LA Vol said:
It doesn't look great for UT, but it's better for the players. If they're not drafted during the first two days, their agents can negotiate better deals as UDFAs. And some, like North, have the leverage to choose where they prefer to play.

The Vols had three players who would have been drafted if they had declared early, and we'll probably have 6-7 signed as UDFAs. It's not as bleak as some seem to think.
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Agree. Here's a tweet from Chad Withrow of 104.5 the zone in Nashville....another take on it....

No Tennessee player was taken in the Draft and they went 9-4 in the SEC last year. That is not a negative for the future of this program...
 
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#254
#254
UT's#1Fan said:
Looks like our staff kind of failed these guys... Randolph and or North should have been drafted. Best of luck to those guys.
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They will get paid lots and lots. When their new teams see their work ethic, and other teams see their production, that will impact next years draft as well.

Best of luck to them all. Go win some World Championships VFL.

Jump higher Vols.
 
#255
#255
Iam4utalways said:
They will get paid lots and lots. When their new teams see their work ethic, and other teams see their production, that will impact next years draft as well.

Best of luck to them all. Go win some World Championships VFL.

Jump higher Vols.
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How will that impact next years draft? Just curious
 
#257
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UT's#1Fan said:
Looks like our staff kind of failed these guys... Randolph and or North should have been drafted. Best of luck to those guys.
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How did the staff fail these guys? This isn't a high school kid trying to get recruited. The scouts have tons of film on both of these guys. What could the coaches have done?
 
#258
#258
BearCat204 said:
How will that impact next years draft? Just curious
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NFL teams will see how players from CBJ's react to the demands of being a pro. If these guys signing the FA contracts act the part that will be a positive reflection on Butch. Of course the other side of the coin, if these guys act like a bunch of Jackwagons and wash out, the exact opposite will happen, either way they will be a reflection of how well Butch is preparing players for the NFL. I'm not talking talent, I'm talking being professional and having a solid work ethic and commitment to excellence.

Jump higher Vols.
 
#259
#259
VolFan_N_NC said:
Sorry, you're right. I went back and watched it.

Was out on the back deck grilling when I heard it. I came inside when I heard Tennessee and thought Davis was the one that said it. My bad.

But I have heard him speak unfavorably about Tennessee on the radio in Charlotte before. He may have had good reason but he isn't always ALLVOL when Tennessee subject comes up.
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There is a difference in what someone hears and what someone understands. And it seems you are poor at telling the difference.

I have heard Charles Davis speak unfavorably about the state of the Tennessee program before. But to conclude he is not All Vol? Dead Wrong.

Next time you hear someone, here is a novel idea. Try listening next time.
 
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#260
#260
UT's#1Fan said:
Looks like our staff kind of failed these guys... Randolph and or North should have been drafted. Best of luck to those guys.
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I agree with Randolph. North? Not so much. His numbers and game film for the last 2 of his three seasons is practically non-existent, because he was hurt.

Marquez North Draft Profile – NFL.com

Read North's evaluation. Read the paragraph on weaknesses. For a WR to have the word, "Slow." listed? If I am a GM going over those, that one goes in the reject pile the moment I see that.

North needed another year of college ball to put up impressive numbers. He has the talent, but whoever is giving him advice is a total idiot. But if he wanted to move on, he made room early for another prospect to come in this year.

But you and D4H believe he should have been drafted? There are 32 NFL GMs that disagree with you, and want to keep their jobs.
 
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#262
Iam4utalways said:
NFL teams will see how players from CBJ's react to the demands of being a pro. If these guys signing the FA contracts act the part that will be a positive reflection on Butch. Of course the other side of the coin, if these guys act like a bunch of Jackwagons and wash out, the exact opposite will happen, either way they will be a reflection of how well Butch is preparing players for the NFL. I'm not talking talent, I'm talking being professional and having a solid work ethic and commitment to excellence.

Jump higher Vols.
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With all due respect, IMHO, none of that will matter with regards to which of our players get drafted next year. What's gonna matter the most is the quality of play/playmaking they can put on tape, how well they test at the combine and/or their pro day and how well they interview and workout for individual teams.

For example, no team is gonna care about what Marquez North is doing in LA when they're evaluating Cam Sutton or Jalen Hurd next year. It's gonna be all about what Cam and Jalen have done and are doing when teams are making a decision about them.
 
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#263
KBVol said:
With all due respect, IMHO, none of that will matter with regards to which of our players get drafted next year. What's gonna matter the most is the quality of play/playmaking they can put on tape, how well they test at the combine and/or their pro day and how well they interview and workout for individual teams.

For example, no team is gonna care about what Marquez North is doing in LA when they're evaluating Cam Sutton or Jalen Hurd next year. It's gonna be all about what Cam and Jalen have done and are doing when teams are making a decision about them.
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It would be awesome for Hurd to stay his Senior year and win back to back National Championships, along with a Heisman Trophy.

Talent and tape will be what they look at first, but if the guys that get a shot and prove that they were draft worthy based off how they are prepared for the NFL lifestyle, they could miss out. UT is known for preparing players for the NFL, CBJ will continue that tradition.

But yeah, character is secondary to talent and tape.

Jump higher Vols.
 
#264
#264
Iam4utalways said:
It would be awesome for Hurd to stay his Senior year and win back to back National Championships, along with a Heisman Trophy.

Talent and tape will be what they look at first, but if the guys that get a shot and prove that they were draft worthy based off how they are prepared for the NFL lifestyle, they could miss out. UT is known for preparing players for the NFL, CBJ will continue that tradition.

But yeah, character is secondary to talent and tape.

Jump higher Vols.
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The character of each individual player/prospect will certainly be taken into account. I think I get your overall point, but at the end of the day, I just don't believe anybody else's character is gonna matter other than that of the particular player being evaluated.
 
#265
#265
VOL 4 Life 83 said:
Sad thing is, vandy just had a player drafted. We are officially the only team in the SEC that hasn't had a player drafted this year (and last if you're counting).

But on the bright side, next year we could have 10+
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You must be hitting the crack pipe. You probably thought we had 3 going this year as well.
 
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#267
TNnative said:
There is a difference in what someone hears and what someone understands. And it seems you are poor at telling the difference.

I have heard Charles Davis speak unfavorably about the state of the Tennessee program before. But to conclude he is not All Vol? Dead Wrong.

Next time you hear someone, here is a novel idea. Try listening next time.
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Oh STFU pal. Just bc a he played at Tennessee doesn't mean that he's never bashed them before. I understand that you think everyone loves the Vols, but outside the state of Tennessee they get bashed, even by their own sometimes.
 
#268
#268
How can anyone look at the last two years of the draft and not blame it on Dooley? This has zero to do with Jones
 
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#274
#274
KBVol said:
He tweeted out an APPY State fan saying that. Here's his tweet....notice that he forwarded it to Coach Jones, along with the date of the game....

MoveTheSticks (App. St.) just said "Hey CD...More guys from Germany got drafted than your Vols!"- App. St @ Tennessee, 9/3/16 @UTCoachJones
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That's Daniel Jeremiah his colleague on NFL Network.
 
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