2016 Election Thread Part Deux

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I don't know if it means much or not but so far there are about 80k more GOP votes than Dem votes in Wisconsin
 
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VolnJC said:
I don't know if it means much or not but so far there are about 80k more GOP votes than Dem votes in Wisconsin
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That's happening pretty much everywhere that isn't a 100% blue state. People are coming out to vote because of Trump, one way or another.
 
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VolnJC said:
One thing I was wrong about..Hillary will not be able to run on the make history again theme like Obama did..they aren't going to be able to round up all the young voters like he did...they despise her and will sit this one out...now the GOP just has to find someone that is not hated more than her..Kasich to the rescue!
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It really is a shame for the GOP. This should be the easiest time to beat a democrat, yet they got bit in the ass by a Trump.
 
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This is the actual official statement released by the Trump campaign after tonight's loss:

Donald J. Trump withstood the onslaught of the establishment yet again. Lyin’ Ted Cruz had the Governor of Wisconsin, many conservative talk radio show hosts, and the entire party apparatus behind him. Not only was he propelled by the anti-Trump Super PAC’s spending countless millions of dollars on false advertising against Mr. Trump, but he was coordinating `with his own Super PAC’s (which is illegal) who totally control him. Ted Cruz is worse than a puppet— he is a Trojan horse, being used by the party bosses attempting to steal the nomination from Mr. Trump. We have total confidence that Mr. Trump will go on to win in New York, where he holds a substantial lead in all the polls, and beyond. Mr. Trump is the only candidate who can secure the delegates needed to win the Republican nomination and ultimately defeat Hillary Clinton, or whomever is the Democratic nominee, in order to Make America Great Again.
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He takes whining to a new art form.
 
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uh oh...she mad!
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Wisconsin Trump's Waterloo?

The Economist: Cheesed-off Wisconsinites dump Trump

Speaking of cheesy, Trump having Melania speak on his behalf...

“When you attack him, he will punch back ten times harder,” she said. She promised that “he is the one that will take care of women.”

Add fuel...

“Nice legs, Donald,” a man shouted from the second floor.

Not the response The Donald had hoped for
 
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UTCVol said:
This is the actual official statement released by the Trump campaign after tonight's loss:



He takes whining to a new art form.
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I don't know what it is about it, but every time I hear or read Donald Trump refer to Cruz as "Lyin' Ted Cruz," I snicker like a 2nd-grader who is planning on pranking his teacher but can't keep a straight face. Every damn time it gets me!

Just something about it.
 
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Persian Vol said:
It really is a shame for the GOP. This should be the easiest time to beat a democrat, yet they got bit in the ass by a Trump.
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No, they got bit in the ass because the GOP has repeatedly failed to deliver a viable candidate. Some of the inability to find a viable candidate is because they have repeatedly sold one thing to the electorate but only delivered to a far more select group - failing to do anything meaningful for most of the electorate. To try and cover their infidelity, they patch together and stir up special interest groups - abortion, immigration, etc and abandon them, too, even when some of the special interests are extremely important issues. The run of the mill candidates (retreads from congress and governorships) have shot themselves in the foot - mostly multiple times, and Trump was an outsider who walked in without a visible limp. And because elections have been turned into four year carnivals, only con men stand a chance; a quiet spoken, intelligent, honest man or woman is simply cannon fodder.

When you continually divide and polarize the nation without actually doing something, you eventually get to the point that the dividers and polarizers have nothing of value to sell and no ability to convince that they can represent the interests of all. That's pretty devastating when the other side remains unchecked and can continue the theme of free handouts to a rapidly growing subset of the populace.
 
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AM64 said:
No, they got bit in the ass because the GOP has repeatedly failed to deliver a viable candidate. Some of the inability to find a viable candidate is because they have repeatedly sold one thing to the electorate but only delivered to a far more select group - failing to do anything meaningful for most of the electorate. To try and cover their infidelity, they patch together and stir up special interest groups - abortion, immigration, etc and abandon them, too, even when some of the special interests are extremely important issues. The run of the mill candidates (retreads from congress and governorships) have shot themselves in the foot - mostly multiple times, and Trump was an outsider who walked in without a visible limp. And because elections have been turned into four year carnivals, only con men stand a chance; a quiet spoken, intelligent, honest man or woman is simply cannon fodder.

When you continually divide and polarize the nation without actually doing something, you eventually get to the point that the dividers and polarizers have nothing of value to sell and no ability to convince that they can represent the interests of all. That's pretty devastating when the other side remains unchecked and can continue the theme of free handouts to a rapidly growing subset of the populace.
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If by viable you mean can win, I think it's time to ask whether the temperament of the base would ever allow the party to nominate someone who can win the general. The two ideas are so polarized at the moment.
 
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lawgator1 said:
If by viable you mean can win, I think it's time to ask whether the temperament of the base would ever allow the party to nominate someone who can win the general. The two ideas are so polarized at the moment.
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The base is ignoring the entire "autopsy" that took place after 2012. Romney lost because Obama had a better turnout than him. It's that simple. Romney won the independent vote and still lost. He lost because the party didn't appeal to Hispanics, single women, and college age voters. Stop acting like its the 1980's. This election was a chance for the party to expand. To adopt and overcome. It has failed.
 
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lawgator1 said:
If by viable you mean can win, I think it's time to ask whether the temperament of the base would ever allow the party to nominate someone who can win the general. The two ideas are so polarized at the moment.
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Pretty much. The GOP continues to patch together a base from groups for or against one thing or another. At some point you reach a barrier - any new group is going to be counter to at least part of what a previously included group wants. We need to get things back on some sort of reasonable political divide - like those who want government to run their lives including redistributing their income - and those who don't. Sanders is trying to develop one side, and the GOP is making faces and sticking out tongues like grade school kids. The hag just lies to anyone who will listen, and doesn't represent anyone but herself.

In the end those elected have to represent everyone; some options won't make everyone happy, but other things have to happen for the good of all (except maybe some financial elites who will in any case take care of themselves) - the "little things" - banks "too big to fail" and other monopolistic behaviors and realizing that jobs in this country are more important than global aims such as "free trade" with countries like China.
 
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I don't want to pay those extra taxes for free junk.. I'm a troll because i think Hillary is the best option, flaws and all. She says she's going to get her First mate to help her out with the economy, and I like that idea.
 
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