2016 Election Thread Part Deux

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Grand Vol said:
Between Trump or Cruz?

At least Trump is entertaining and makes the left screech regularly.
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Yeah, that's his major redeeming quality in my mind. It's fun to watch him operate and especially entertaining to watch people make a***s of themselves on both sides.

Cruz is a smarmy little snake, but if his shenanigans stop Trump from getting 1237 I'm down with it.
 
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UTCVol said:
Yeah, that's his major redeeming quality in my mind. It's fun to watch him operate and especially entertaining to watch people make a***s of themselves on both sides.

Cruz is a smarmy little snake, but if his shenanigans stop Trump from getting 1237 I'm down with it.
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It's a foregone conclusion Trump will get the nomination. Whether he reaches the magic number prior to or gets the nod at the convention doesn't matter. Cruz is just delaying the inevitable.
 
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Grand Vol said:
It's a foregone conclusion Trump will get the nomination. Whether he reaches the magic number prior to or gets the nod at the convention doesn't matter. Cruz is just delaying the inevitable.
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I'm not sure I agree. They are gaming the hell out of the delegate allocation, even stacking some of Trump's delegates with people who will bolt after the first round of voting.

As far as the optics of "stealing" the nomination, could be bad. But it's MAD either way if you ask me if Trump goes third party. There's no one to unite these disparate threads.
 
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Well, I managed to make it this far into Cruz's speech before having to shut it off. The guy wants to be President, but still can't make a speech without sounding like a televangelist.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Since the other thread wasn't appropriate...



I wouldn't be sure the masses will quickly change over to Hillary, even if Trump is the GOP nominee. She is the "establishment" in a year where that's like saying she is Typhoid Mary. Bernie has attracted all sorts of younger voters with his rhetoric and even though Hillary has tried to out "left" him, they are still skeptical of what she's saying. This isn't 2008 where the main candidate is popular and charismatic. She just does't have the charm Obama had back then.

You're right they might vote against Trump, but not in the numbers you saw in 2008.
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It's really hard to predict Democrats on a good day; their part of the electorate is simply a freak show. First they were absolutely against any old white guy, and now half of them are staunch Bernie fans - guess they are willing to change their stripes and rhetoric when they believe free handouts are on the menu.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Well, I managed to make it this far into Cruz's speech before having to shut it off. The guy wants to be President, but still can't make a speech without sounding like a televangelist.
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Ted and his dad are psychopaths. His dad talks about how Ted is called by god to be elected and take all the money away from the unbeliever and give it to the believer.
 
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AM64 said:
It's really hard to predict Democrats on a good day; their part of the electorate is simply a freak show. First they were absolutely against any old white guy, and now half of them are staunch Bernie fans - guess they are willing to change their stripes and rhetoric when they believe free handouts are on the menu.
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"Actually in a socialist society it doesn't just offer handouts. Sure they have more social programs but no more than do Scandinavian countries. The main aim is to influence the proletariat to take the means of production from the bourgeoisie. Basically in a capitalist structure, the factory worker sells his labor to a factory owner to make a thing, the factory owner then compensates the worker for a wage which is not equal to the price of the thing he made. This is excess capital, or profit, the factory owner makes money off the excess labor, where as the worker becomes a wage slave working fro a set income.
In a socialist structure the factory worker makes a thing with other factory workers, they distribute it and spread the wealth acquired evenly among themselves for the work they put into making a thing. However if someone is not pulling their weight the collective of the factory can fire them and hire someone else. A common misconception is that in Socialism there is no free market when in fact there is, it is just kept on a tight leash, so if a career field is more in demand then they can make more money."
It's to make it so the workers make all of the money from whatever they produce.
 
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VolnJC said:
Sanders might win big tonight..look at this exit poll

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Duh. Not much chance of a country with the highest cost of living and highest wages is going to compete in the labor market with third world countries and China with a state controlled system playing the numbers. Our politicians were either too stupid to figure it out or too crooked to care. Look what has become of Japan as they moved upward in living standards and costs - they are teetering on the edge.
 
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"How come we can rebuild the infrastructure of Iraq and Afghanistan, but we cannot rebuild our own crumbling infrastructure?"

- Bernie Sanders in Wyoming tonight

That's probably the most succinct expression that explains the success of Sanders and Trump this cycle.
 
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volprof said:
"How come we can rebuild the infrastructure of Iraq and Afghanistan, but we cannot rebuild our own crumbling infrastructure?"

- Bernie Sanders in Wyoming tonight

That's probably the most succinct expression that explains the success of Sanders and Trump this cycle.
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Cause Dick Cheney needs more money.
 
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UTCVol said:
I'm not sure I agree. They are gaming the hell out of the delegate allocation, even stacking some of Trump's delegates with people who will bolt after the first round of voting.

As far as the optics of "stealing" the nomination, could be bad. But it's MAD either way if you ask me if Trump goes third party. There's no one to unite these disparate threads.
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You know, if Trump and Sanders both lose and decided to go third party, this could be the craziest election in history. Even the large metropolitan voting blocks might split between Sanders and Clinton rather than being their normal solid Democrat.
 
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volprof said:
"How come we can rebuild the infrastructure of Iraq and Afghanistan, but we cannot rebuild our own crumbling infrastructure?"

- Bernie Sanders in Wyoming tonight

That's probably the most succinct expression that explains the success of Sanders and Trump this cycle.
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Wait those infrastructures have been rebuilt? News to me and the rest of the world
 
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One thing I was wrong about..Hillary will not be able to run on the make history again theme like Obama did..they aren't going to be able to round up all the young voters like he did...they despise her and will sit this one out...now the GOP just has to find someone that is not hated more than her..Kasich to the rescue!
 
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volfanhill said:
Wait those infrastructures have been rebuilt? News to me and the rest of the world
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Rebuilt? Hell, they hardly existed to begin with, particularly in Afghanistan. We basically brought electricity to the land of the Afghans.

Bernie is commenting on the fact that our elites have foolishly committed us to wars of choice to mostly advance their own interests while neglecting growing domestic discontent and dissension. This is a common mistake made by elites and reeks of imperial rot.

It's basically the foreign policy equivalent of the subprime mortgage gaming our astute lenders were practicing before the bottom fell out. And, just like with those astute men, the elites who have neglected us will largely go unpunished while the rest of us fight it out.
 
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volprof said:
Rebuilt? Hell, they hardly existed to begin with, particularly in Afghanistan. We basically brought electricity to the land of the Afghans.

Bernie is commenting on the fact that our elites have foolishly committed us to wars of choice to mostly advance their own interests while neglecting growing domestic discontent and dissension. This is a common mistake made by elites and reeks of imperial rot.

It's basically the foreign policy equivalent of the subprime mortgage gaming our astute lenders were practicing before the bottom fell out. And, just like with those astute men, the elites who have neglected us will largely go unpunished while the rest of us fight it out.
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One of my friends is a marine, he said he spent days guarding the illegal opium fields in Afghanistan...our tax dollars at work!
 
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VolnJC said:
One of my friends is a marine, he said he spent days guarding the illegal opium fields in Afghanistan...our tax dollars at work!
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Now their's a major heroine problem in our major cities. The Taliban had pretty much eliminated the opium trade in Afghanistan. Now the jihadis are going to kill more of us through poppy than they ever could on the battlefield.
 
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Sanders will probably win every Wisconsin county but 1..yet the delegates are divided Sanders 45 Clinton 31... crazy democrat math
 
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red butler said:
Now their's a major heroine problem in our major cities. The Taliban had pretty much eliminated the opium trade in Afghanistan. Now the jihadis are going to kill more of us through poppy than they ever could on the battlefield.
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Yeah I had a narcotics officer come speak to my pharmacology class this term...she said it is a huge problem in Knoxville, and it's cheaper on the street than oxycodone and hydrocodone...first responders in Knoxville now carry naloxone(narcotic antagonist) with them and have saved multiple lives

KPD saves lives of four from heroin overdose
 
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