Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXV

[butchna]

Looks like #7 on the ground there to me. It's definitely not a 13.

That's the game ender...that Randolph knocked away...no drop. :good!:

 

[InVOLuntary]

That's not the wide open pass you're referring to numb nuts.

Lol

 

[InVOLuntary]

MTSU struggling early.

 

[LordVOLdemort]

Looks like #7 on the ground there to me. It's definitely not a 13.

That's not the wide open pass you're referring to numb nuts.

#13 Malik Foreman, not Sutton was defending the pass late in the 4th quarter that was dropped. Reggie Davis #81 is the player that dropped the pass.

Trust me, my UGA-lovin' boss complained about it for weeks. lol

 

[Catbone]

Rekt

 

[Brillovol]

Lol at suggesting our two senior SEC safeties were liabilities. Similar asinine thoughts:

Hurd's a weakness cause he can't hit a home run.
Dobbs' a weakness cause he's inaccurate downfield.
Barnett's a weakness cause he starts slow.
Sutton's a weakness cause he doesn't get enough picks.
Wolf's a weakness cause he doesn't get enough catches.

 

[vol2002]

#13 Malik Foreman, not Sutton was defending the pass late in the 4th quarter that was dropped. Reggie Davis #81 is the player that dropped the pass.

Trust me, my UGA-lovin' boss complained about it for weeks. lol

Payback for the Pig Howard fumble.

 

[BigOrange15]

Payback for the Pig Howard fumble.

Yes.

 

[Brillovol]

Payback for the Pig Howard fumble.

You know how you know when you're back? The ball bounces your way. Luck follows talent.

 

[LordVOLdemort]

Payback for the Pig Howard fumble.

I'm pretty sure I cried bourbon tears that night...

 

[LordVOLdemort]

Lol at suggesting our two senior SEC safeties were liabilities. Similar asinine thoughts:

Hurd's a weakness cause he can't hit a home run.
Dobbs' a weakness cause he's inaccurate downfield.
Barnett's a weakness cause he starts slow.
Sutton's a weakness cause he doesn't get enough picks.
Wolf's a weakness cause he doesn't get enough catches.

Josh Smith's a weakness bc his girlfriend is so unbelievably hot that he's not got his mind in the game... And he's white... lol

 

[InVOLuntary]

MTSU back in it.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

We were struggling for those games that McNeil was feared lost. He stabilized after he returned and it was noticeable. Why'd our performance similarly struggle when Randolph had to sit out halfs with those targeting calls? Most likely because Jancek put too much on those positions and you needed a lot of football smarts AND experience to function there. That should shift under Shoop but don't freak out the first time Kelly,Berry,Abernathy, Gaulden,Griffin or Warrior whiffs on one or 30 attempts. As Goliath said before the migraine..."**it happens". inch:

We had no experience behind those two and Kelly. It was arguably our weakest position on defense. I love Randolph and McNeil for leadership and toughness but they both lacked athleticism and were abused against teams that could pass the ball. I don't think that's debatable.

Both were solid players but not playmakers. They lacked quickness and speed which is not their fault. We have better athletes now and we will be much more difficult to pass against.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

We are better but over the later half of the year Randolph was blowing ball carriers up. People saying he was a liability may want to watch a lot of the latter half of the year.

This is the Medey argument also. We play our weaker competition the last half. We need elite players to beat the oklahoma's and alabama's.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

Lol at suggesting our two senior SEC safeties were liabilities. Similar asinine thoughts:

Hurd's a weakness cause he can't hit a home run.
Dobbs' a weakness cause he's inaccurate downfield.
Barnett's a weakness cause he starts slow.
Sutton's a weakness cause he doesn't get enough picks.
Wolf's a weakness cause he doesn't get enough catches.

Dobbs does have a weakness with accuracy. The rest here are nonsense which have been posted on this site. I get your point but many are taking the defense of McNeil and Randolph because we didn't have better options. I get that. The facts are that we do now.

 

[butchna]

We had no experience behind those two and Kelly. It was arguably our weakest position on defense. I love Randolph and McNeil for leadership and toughness but they both lacked athleticism and were abused against teams that could pass the ball. I don't think that's debatable.

Both were solid players but not playmakers. They lacked quickness and speed which is not their fault. We have better athletes now and we will be much more difficult to pass against.

I think Shoop's scheme uses athleticism better than Jancek's...and he teaches positioning better. The games where Kelly and Berry were used more displayed them out of position at key times...Bowling Green exploited that (which turned out to not be just us). At their best, Randolph and McNeil almost seemed to compensate despite their instruction...years more trial&error (specially that 2012 season!). I'm not arguing that better athletes won't make bigger plays...they just wouldn't have in last year's scheme...IMO.

 

[Brillovol]

Dobbs does have a weakness with accuracy. The rest here are nonsense which have been posted on this site. I get your point but many are taking the defense of McNeil and Randolph because we didn't have better options. I get that. The facts are that we do now.

You're missing the point. Every player has their weaknesses, but to label them as a weakness/liability is laughable. I don't disagree that we will eventually upgrade, but they were good SEC players and we were a better team with them on the field.

 

[Aesius]

MTSU back in it.

And right back out of it.

 

[InVOLuntary]

And right back out of it.

Blowout city.

 

[Aesius]

Blowout city.

Weird how they collapsed so badly.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

You're missing the point. Every player has their weaknesses, but to label them as a weakness/liability is laughable. I don't disagree that we will eventually upgrade, but they were good SEC players and we were a better team with them on the field.

They were solid SEC players. I supposed I'm spoiled by watching good and great safety's for Tennessee from 1990 to 2010.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

I think Shoop's scheme uses athleticism better than Jancek's...and he teaches positioning better. The games where Kelly and Berry were used more displayed them out of position at key times...Bowling Green exploited that (which turned out to not be just us). At their best, Randolph and McNeil almost seemed to compensate despite their instruction...years more trial&error (specially that 2012 season!). I'm not arguing that better athletes won't make bigger plays...they just wouldn't have in last year's scheme...IMO.

I can agree with this and I appreciate what those gentleman did for us. They however were not effective against teams with good QB's or stopping an elite RB.

 

[The Breakerboy]

It was Sutton.
Georgia Report Card: The Tennessee Game

Good picture of it in that link.

Sutton gave up a TD to Mitchell. He didn't play inside at all this past year.

 

[The Breakerboy]

This is the Medey argument also. We play our weaker competition the last half. We need elite players to beat the oklahoma's and alabama's.

Randolph played good in both games though. Alabama game he showed up early for sure.

 

[The Breakerboy]

I think Shoop's scheme uses athleticism better than Jancek's...and he teaches positioning better. The games where Kelly and Berry were used more displayed them out of position at key times...Bowling Green exploited that (which turned out to not be just us). At their best, Randolph and McNeil almost seemed to compensate despite their instruction...years more trial&error (specially that 2012 season!). I'm not arguing that better athletes won't make bigger plays...they just wouldn't have in last year's scheme...IMO.

Bowling Green game Berry wasn't getting any help from Moseley. Kelly Jr. also came in and stopped all the over the top stuff. And TKjr was in much better position versus passes than any other safety on the team.