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I wonder if Butch and the staff have agreements with "borderline" kids that they take early in the process who perhaps look good on tape/at Tennessee's camps but have a few question marks. Maybe they'll take their commitments early, but they need to ball out their senior years and do X number of camps and improve certain aspects of their game in order to retain their commitment status and scholarship offers.

It's kind of a win-win situation if the kids agree to it. Getting an early (commitable) offer from Tennessee helps them get other offers if it doesn't work out, and the staff can take commitments from guys with high upsides who may or may not live up to their expectations as seniors, making it easier for them to potentially cut ties down the road. It's also a bit of an insurance policy in case they strike out with other targets.
 
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Aesius said:
I wonder if Butch and the staff have agreements with "borderline" kids that they take early in the process who perhaps look good on tape/at Tennessee's camps but have a few question marks. Maybe they'll take their commitments early, but they need to ball out their senior years and do X number of camps and improve certain aspects of their game in order to retain their commitment status and scholarship offers.

It's kind of a win-win situation if the kids agree to it. Getting an early (commitable) offer from Tennessee helps them get other offers if it doesn't work out, and the staff can take commitments from guys with high upsides who may or may not live up to their expectations as seniors, making it easier for them to potentially cut ties down the road. It's also a bit of an insurance policy in case they strike out with other targets.
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I have suspected for a long time some offers are "conditional".
 
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volsfan_17 said:
Wait...There's Vandy fans?
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I don't know about football fans, but I did hear a Vandy basketball fan on the radio today......still defending Stallings as the BB coach...lol.

Vandy is a basketball school. They can do a lot better than Stallings for a basketball coach.
 
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BaldBiker said:
I don't know about football fans, but I did hear a Vandy basketball fan on the radio today......still defending Stallings as the BB coach...lol.

Vandy is a basketball school. They can do a lot better than Stallings for a basketball coach.
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They're a baseball school
 
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BaldBiker said:
I said one of...lol. I don't know if TN will become a premiere BB school or not, but I think there is a chance if Barnes keeps on his trajectory and we get some decent recruits. I like Rick Barnes as a coach.
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I get you but I cannot see a world where Vandy "should be" a basketball powerhouse and Tennessee "could be."
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
I get you but I cannot see a world where Vandy "should be" a basketball powerhouse and Tennessee "could be."
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Completely different for basketball than football.

Vanderbilt fans actually support the BB program. Like it or not the Vandy gym (with it's weird set-up) is a plus. It's a hell of a home court advantage. Vandy (I believe) is the second highest paying BB coaching position in the SEC.

While Nashville is not a big enough draw for recruits to come here to play football, in basketball it definitely is.

the "should be" vs "could be" is not at all a far fetched idea. As a TN fan, I would love to dominate Vandy in every area, but it probably will not happen. They have a better baseball program than UT does and they should be a premiere basketball program too, they have a lot going for them in that aspect. If they actually hire a good coach, they will be a Top Tier SEC program.



Now excuse me while I go puke. :sick:

I hate Vandy
 
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BaldBiker said:
Completely different for basketball than football.

Vanderbilt fans actually support the BB program. Like it or not the Vandy gym (with it's weird set-up) is a plus. It's a hell of a home court advantage. Vandy (I believe) is the second highest paying BB coaching position in the SEC.

While Nashville is not a big enough draw for recruits to come here to play football, in basketball it definitely is.

the "should be" vs "could be" is not at all a far fetched idea. As a TN fan, I would love to dominate Vandy in every area, but it probably will not happen. They have a better baseball program than UT does and they should be a premiere basketball program too, they have a lot going for them in that aspect. If they actually hire a good coach, they will be a Top Tier SEC program.



Now excuse me while I go puke. :sick:

I hate Vandy
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So they have a weird court setup and pay their long time coach well. That's all they need to have for you to say they should be a powerhouse? Is there anything else they have??
 
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LaagerVol said:
So they have a weird court setup and pay their long time coach well. That's all they need to have for you to say they should be a powerhouse? Is there anything else they have??
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Come on man. Seriously, I hate Vandy as much as anyone, but I am also a lover of sports. I hate Georgia too, but I would be stupid to not expect them to actually be better than what they have shown over the last 30 years. Whether you choose to agree with me or not is no big deal, but don't go getting all condescending with me about it.

I understand that a lot of people don't follow other teams sports and only follow their team, but don't try to make your arguments based off of anything more than, they are Vandy. Read....look at the talent they bring in...look at what the only hold back (coach) for them has been, then come back and make an argument. I'm not going to go back and forth with you, when it's obvious you don't know anything about Vandy Basketball.

They are good. They should be better.

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BaldBiker said:
I hate you. :the_finger:
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I am not able to initiate a thread which is why I am asking this question here.

I've been out of pocket for a few days so can someone please tell me what is going on in practice. Are they on spring break? Just noticed I could not find any updates.

I'm sure I am the only one who does not know the answer but I would appreciate info on this please. tks
 
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barrylee said:
I am not able to initiate a thread which is why I am asking this question here.

I've been out of pocket for a few days so can someone please tell me what is going on in practice. Are they on spring break? Just noticed I could not find any updates.

I'm sure I am the only one who does not know the answer but I would appreciate info on this please. tks
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Yep. On spring break this week. Practice resumes A week from today I think. :hi:
 
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Oh hai guys, how's everything going?

Black clouds still looming/ whatnot?

Nice discussion

See y'all for the O/W game
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Not to be argumentative but I really do think it is that simple. We can't sell immediate playing time for the most part. We have talent and everyone knows it. If we lay an egg in two of the big three, Bama, GA, and Florida, other coaches will and can make the case that we squander talent.
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Barring significant injuries, they will have a valid argument. Expectations are high, because our schedule and roster set us up to win big this year. We play UF and Bama in Neyland, and UGA has a new QB and a new HC. Our toughest OOC game is a very beatable VT, we draw aTm in the West, we return almost every starter on both sides of the ball, and we finally have quality depth at virtually every position.

This is the year to push all-in. We'll lose a lot of key players next year.
 
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BaldBiker said:
Come on man. Seriously, I hate Vandy as much as anyone, but I am also a lover of sports. I hate Georgia too, but I would be stupid to not expect them to actually be better than what they have shown over the last 30 years. Whether you choose to agree with me or not is no big deal, but don't go getting all condescending with me about it.

I understand that a lot of people don't follow other teams sports and only follow their team, but don't try to make your arguments based off of anything more than, they are Vandy. Read....look at the talent they bring in...look at what the only hold back (coach) for them has been, then come back and make an argument. I'm not going to go back and forth with you, when it's obvious you don't know anything about Vandy Basketball.

They are good. They should be better.

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Lol easy man, i wasnt attacking you. Comparing Georgia to vandy isnt helping your argument any. Stallings hasn't always been their coach and they've never been a basketball powerhouse. Compared to the rest of their programs (baseball being the exception) , the basketball program has been solid. A great coach (Corbin) can make a program. So, if they hired a great coach they could be a powerhouse, just like most other programs could under the same scenario. Im just saying I don't see what they offer that says they "should" be a powerhouse.

I'm legitimately asking if you have any other reasons to think they should be besides what was already mentioned?
I wasn't intending to be condescending by the way and I apologize for coming off that way. It's sometimes hard to tell someone's tone on a message board. But i also didn't insult your intelligence like you did mine by saying I'm ignorant to all things that aren't UT.
 
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