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Vol8188 said:
Not at all. You're just sad really.
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It just makes sense why a public school teacher wouldn't understand why there is problem with illegal immigration. ESL students don't effect your ratings in most states, more students helps with your job security and no illegal is going to take your job. They are a win for teachers.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Are they more illegal in TX or something? Coincidentally, my bro-in-law who is a public school teacher is in town right now from Dallas, and he and his wife were just talking about how they don't understand what the problem with illegals is.
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He must love teachings kids to take tests.
 
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hog88 said:
It just makes sense why a public school teacher wouldn't understand why there is problem with illegal immigration. ESL students don't effect your ratings in most states, more students helps with your job security and no illegal is going to take your job. They are a win for teachers.
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My profession doesn't define my political views.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Lol that was your research? You literally just went to the about us page on the racist website in question. His organization has been labeled as a hate group by the SPLC due to their made up statistics and outrageous statements by their leader.
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LOL... as I stated in my previous post, they were hired by the Census Bureau so I'll take their credibility over SPLC.

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You're defending a biased source by attacking a biased source. I believe his point is that the Center for Immigration Studies claims should be taken with a ton of salt.
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LOL... his claim is that they're a hate group according to the SPLC. However, when you go to the SPLC website that he linked, and select anti-immigration as a category, only 11 entities are listed and the Center for Immigration Studies is not one of them.

88... do you want to try again, or do you just make stuff up?
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
LOL... as I stated in my previous post, they were hired by the Census Bureau so I'll take their credibility over SPLC.



LOL... his claim is that they're a hate group according to the SPLC. However, when you go to the SPLC website that he linked, and select anti-immigration as a category, only 11 entities are listed and the Center for Immigration Studies is not one of them.

88... do you want to try again, or do you just make stuff up?
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https://www.splcenter.org/20090201/nativist-lobby-three-faces-intolerance
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
wow... so you link a 7 year old report that is essentially an opinion piece against one guy who co-founded CIS (who may or may not even be involved with the organization today). And SPLC's own website doesn't currently have them listed, unless you can find something more current than a "hate" piece from 7 years ago.
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Your data is 4 years old. What does the age of the article have to do with anything? The founder of CIS runs a publishing company that publishes white supremacy literature. He supports eugenics and is worried that whites are being out bred by other races. Believes Latinos cannot be educated. And is a well known nativists.

Yet you believe his organization is a legitimate source for fair data on immigration?
 
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Vol8188 said:
Your data is 4 years old. What does the age of the article have to do with anything? The founder of CIS runs a publishing company that publishes white supremacy literature. He supports eugenics and is worried that whites are being out bred by other races. Believes Latinos cannot be educated. And is a well known nativists.

Yet you believe his organization is a legitimate source for fair data on immigration?
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Every bit of that is from the SLPC website... nice copy and paste. And I guess it must be true because it's on the internet. Nice research on your part.

So you choose not to refute the actual study that was done, you've claimed nothing incorrect about the study, but your "proof point" is that some other group calls CIS a hate group... even though they're not currently listed as such on said group's website.

At this point I'll bail out of this discussion because you've just presented too hard of an argument for me to refute.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Every bit of that is from the SLPC website... nice copy and paste. And I guess it must be true because it's on the internet. Nice research on your part.

So you choose not to refute the actual study that was done, you've claimed nothing incorrect about the study, but your "proof point" is that some other group calls CIS a hate group... even though they're not currently listed as such on said group's website.

At this point I'll bail out of this discussion because you've just presented too hard of an argument for me to refute.
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lol I don't know if you understand what copy and paste means. Those are my own words. Not a direct quote.

And clearly the argument is too hard for you to refute, because you've at no point done so. You've only complained about the article being 7 years old (which is irrelevant and your information is 4 years old) and that the SPLC doesn't have them listed as a hate group.

By the way: here's a 2015 article for you.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch...tudies-continues-associate-white-nationalists

I hope this is recent enough.
 
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Trump In Talks With Gingrich For White House Chief of Staff Position? - DCWhispers.com

A newly whispered rumor involves Donald Trump and Newt Gingrich having preliminary discussion about Gingrich’s involvement in a Trump White House as the potential new president’s Chief of Staff.

Trump is said to have made clear his intention to surround himself with a mix of business-savvy men and women as well as some who have considerable experience dealing with the monstrosity that is D.C. politics.
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Vol8188 said:
It's a 70 page report. I'll skim through it later, mainly to see if they included SS and Medicaid taxes. But I'm not reading the whole thing.
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Read the first paragraph cornholio. It says all you need to know. They are a net negative for ALL levels of government. When faced with facts you deflect more than a hockey goalie
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Read the first paragraph cornholio. It says all you need to know. They are a net negative for ALL levels of government. When faced with facts you deflect more than a hockey goalie
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I'm sure it's all you read. It seems that one of the 13 reports in the link you listed actually showed immigration as a positive. I'm looking through now to see what was different about their approach.
 
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Vol8188 said:
lol I don't know if you understand what copy and paste means. Those are my own words. Not a direct quote.

And clearly the argument is too hard for you to refute, because you've at no point done so. You've only complained about the article being 7 years old (which is irrelevant and your information is 4 years old) and that the SPLC doesn't have them listed as a hate group.
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Okay... so let's review. I make a post that includes data, charts, etc. along with a link to the article that provides all the details to the study. And your only rebuttal is that it's from a hate group - based on the SPLC. So you refute NOTHING and just make an accusation. Talk about the pot kissing the kettles behind.
Vol8188 said:
By the way: here's a 2015 article for you.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch...tudies-continues-associate-white-nationalists

I hope this is recent enough.
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And here's an article for you.

EDITORIAL: The FBI dumps a ‘hate group’
Something called the Southern Poverty Law Center sounds like a harmless do-good organization of idealistic young lawyers out to make life better for poor folks in the South, most of them likely black. Who wouldn’t want to make life better for poor folks?

But looks can be deceiving. The poverty law center, known by its initials SPLC, is actually a money-making scheme — some have called it a “scam” — of an Alabama lawyer who set out years ago to get rich on the backs of the poor and the duped.
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So for the record, CIS is an organization used by the Census Burea and SPLC is an organization dumped by the FBI.

Do you still want to keep playing? If so, it's your move.
 
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