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Initial Interviews on the rape happened before the incidents with Bowles


Just curious how you know when the follow up interviews were done by the police and are so certain of that timing?

I am sorry, but you are acting just like the lawyer here. You have many good posts and make some reasoned arguments about some things, but this time you're just throwing feces against the wall to see what sticks. That is also all that the plaintiffs' lawyer is doing.
 
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Nick,

That is an awesome testimony and I am proud of the work the Lord has done to carry you through your difficulties in your service.
 
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My worry is the police thru their investigation discovered the assault and found that jones hadn't followed proper protocol regarding such an incident

Perhaps our judge friend can clear this up but it's my understanding it's the lawful duty of any educator to report any acts of violence done to or by any students under their supervision

I object. Facts not in evidence. I have watched a lot, I mean a lot, of Law and Order.
 
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Disclaimer: Gon be long. This is very personal, so please don't tell me how I should have handled things, or what my attitudes should have been. I am more than aware of my faults. :)

Personal story, relating a bit to the Drae situation.

There was a season in ministry, for 6 1/2 years, when I was under a man who crushed my spirit. At the end of this season, I was mentally and emotionally shot. I had no faith left in myself to do anything, having been crushed under an incredible workload, jobs I couldn't excel at, and verbal abuse. It got so bad, I had to pick up my family and leave the country. A team of psychologists told me "the house is on fire, and you've got to get out." As a man, I felt I had completely failed in life.

It took two years of recovering in the US before we could get back to what we do. In that time, I received a phone call from a supporting organization of this ministry. Allegations of abuse from another foreigner (after my time) and he had taken it all the way to the international office level. I was questioned about my time there, and whether I had seen any of these incidents take place.

I had one week before the questions would come, and I sat there, like David holding Saul's robe, knife in hand, knowing that the lifelong work of this man I despised was literally in my hands. I could crush him... but at the same time, end a lot of good things that were happening there for children, in spite of the work environment. My integrity was on the line, battling against virtual hatred that I was battling to let go of.

The call came, and the questions came. When I could have thrown this man under the bus, I took the high road, because of MY integrity, not him. I truthfully answered that I had not seen any of the behavior described by this other guy, and it did sound far fetched, based on the fact I had spent 12 hours a day with this guy for 6 1/2 years. They asked me whether they should continue to fund the work, IMO. I answered, "Let it be clear, I have no love for this man. The staff are overworked to the point of exhaustion, and he is mean spirited. However, the WORK itself that they do is good, and hundreds of poor children are receiving a quality education. I have not seen the acts which you have described to me."

David refused to lay his hand on the Lord's anointed king, and I told God, "If you are going to deal with this man's character, it's not coming by my bitter hand."

Drae has an incredible amount of power here... in the truth and the lie. I have no idea which one is the truth, but I hope that he does not let the temptation of that power lead him to take vengeance on a situation where he has harbored bitterness.

Nick,

That is an awesome story of you as not only a Christian but as a man. I am not sure I could've done the same but so encouraging to know good people still exist. I know you did not write this to get a pump up Nick reply. However...............:hi::hi::hi::hi::hi::rock::rock::rock::rock::good!::good!::good!::good!::good!::good!::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:
 
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Disclaimer: Gon be long. This is very personal, so please don't tell me how I should have handled things, or what my attitudes should have been. I am more than aware of my faults. :)

Personal story, relating a bit to the Drae situation.

There was a season in ministry, for 6 1/2 years, when I was under a man who crushed my spirit. At the end of this season, I was mentally and emotionally shot. I had no faith left in myself to do anything, having been crushed under an incredible workload, jobs I couldn't excel at, and verbal abuse. It got so bad, I had to pick up my family and leave the country. A team of psychologists told me "the house is on fire, and you've got to get out." As a man, I felt I had completely failed in life.

It took two years of recovering in the US before we could get back to what we do. In that time, I received a phone call from a supporting organization of this ministry. Allegations of abuse from another foreigner (after my time) and he had taken it all the way to the international office level. I was questioned about my time there, and whether I had seen any of these incidents take place.

I had one week before the questions would come, and I sat there, like David holding Saul's robe, knife in hand, knowing that the lifelong work of this man I despised was literally in my hands. I could crush him... but at the same time, end a lot of good things that were happening there for children, in spite of the work environment. My integrity was on the line, battling against virtual hatred that I was battling to let go of.

The call came, and the questions came. When I could have thrown this man under the bus, I took the high road, because of MY integrity, not him. I truthfully answered that I had not seen any of the behavior described by this other guy, and it did sound far fetched, based on the fact I had spent 12 hours a day with this guy for 6 1/2 years. They asked me whether they should continue to fund the work, IMO. I answered, "Let it be clear, I have no love for this man. The staff are overworked to the point of exhaustion, and he is mean spirited. However, the WORK itself that they do is good, and hundreds of poor children are receiving a quality education. I have not seen the acts which you have described to me."

David refused to lay his hand on the Lord's anointed king, and I told God, "If you are going to deal with this man's character, it's not coming by my bitter hand."

Drae has an incredible amount of power here... in the truth and the lie. I have no idea which one is the truth, but I hope that he does not let the temptation of that power lead him to take vengeance on a situation where he has harbored bitterness.

Great story Nick. The low road is often the easiest to travel. Not sure I would have had the foresight that you showed.
 
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@VinceSports Vols player measurements & workout days at the #NFLCombine :
OLB Curt Maggitt (6'3, 247) Sat
WR Marquez North (6'2, 223, 10 1/4" hands) Sun


I really thought North was taller. It's always surprising how much shorter guys turn out to be at a combine than their listed measurables.
 
Disclaimer: Gon be long. This is very personal, so please don't tell me how I should have handled things, or what my attitudes should have been. I am more than aware of my faults. :)

Personal story, relating a bit to the Drae situation.

There was a season in ministry, for 6 1/2 years, when I was under a man who crushed my spirit. At the end of this season, I was mentally and emotionally shot. I had no faith left in myself to do anything, having been crushed under an incredible workload, jobs I couldn't excel at, and verbal abuse. It got so bad, I had to pick up my family and leave the country. A team of psychologists told me "the house is on fire, and you've got to get out." As a man, I felt I had completely failed in life.

It took two years of recovering in the US before we could get back to what we do. In that time, I received a phone call from a supporting organization of this ministry. Allegations of abuse from another foreigner (after my time) and he had taken it all the way to the international office level. I was questioned about my time there, and whether I had seen any of these incidents take place.

I had one week before the questions would come, and I sat there, like David holding Saul's robe, knife in hand, knowing that the lifelong work of this man I despised was literally in my hands. I could crush him... but at the same time, end a lot of good things that were happening there for children, in spite of the work environment. My integrity was on the line, battling against virtual hatred that I was battling to let go of.

The call came, and the questions came. When I could have thrown this man under the bus, I took the high road, because of MY integrity, not him. I truthfully answered that I had not seen any of the behavior described by this other guy, and it did sound far fetched, based on the fact I had spent 12 hours a day with this guy for 6 1/2 years. They asked me whether they should continue to fund the work, IMO. I answered, "Let it be clear, I have no love for this man. The staff are overworked to the point of exhaustion, and he is mean spirited. However, the WORK itself that they do is good, and hundreds of poor children are receiving a quality education. I have not seen the acts which you have described to me."

David refused to lay his hand on the Lord's anointed king, and I told God, "If you are going to deal with this man's character, it's not coming by my bitter hand."

Drae has an incredible amount of power here... in the truth and the lie. I have no idea which one is the truth, but I hope that he does not let the temptation of that power lead him to take vengeance on a situation where he has harbored bitterness.

Great story and uplifting testimony. I too have some bitterness towards a certain organization. I have an opportunity coming up to speak with young people about the chance to join this organization. There have been so many good thing s brought into my life and the lives of others because of them. The few issues that have soured me over the last few years are not cause to derail others from joining that organization and making a difference in the lives of so many. It is important to point out the positives and the negatives with impartiality.
 
Hart's not going to fire Holly in the current climate. He's going to give her a year to turn it around, just like he did with Dooley-- even though no one thought Dooley had the chops to do it. Hart's fairly predictable. Holly will be back... and some of our AAs will transfer.
 
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@MattSlovin: Holly Warlick asked point blank on postgame show whether the team has quit on her: "It would appear tonight it did." #LadyVols
 
@VinceSports Vols player measurements & workout days at the #NFLCombine :
OLB Curt Maggitt (6'3, 247) Sat
WR Marquez North (6'2, 223, 10 1/4" hands) Sun


I really thought North was taller. It's always surprising how much shorter guys turn out to be at a combine than their listed measurables.

Thanks for posting. I'm always interested in these kinds of things.

Quez has some big hands, no homo.
 
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