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esands88 said:
Borderline personality disorder!
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That's really not a bad guess/e-diagnosis at all given some of her public behavior. It would be sad but not surprising. Sad because it means there's little hope for her (it's a b!tch - no pun intended - to treat) and is destructive to family and everyone else who come into a borderline's path. And also sad because it's destructive to the borderline person too.

There are a few success stories treatment wise but it's exceedingly rare. DBT offers some hope but practitioners are rare. Personally, I'm old school on this -- I still consider borderline pretty much untreatable.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I get where you're coming from.

UT is fighting this in court it seems. That is defending the university.

UT has a history of bungling things. Hart and Cheek not being there will give the haters the material they were looking for. I'm not sure there is a possible way this thing could have been handled that wouldn't bring heat from fake outrage, media mobs, etc.

Like I said, I'm gonna watch as soon as I get a link.
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I'm thinking that more of the reason of them not being there is because the coaches and not the administration scheduled this presser.
 
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UTProf said:
That's really not a bad guess/e-diagnosis at all given some of her public behavior. It would be sad but not surprising. Sad because it means there's little hope for her (it's a b!tch - no pun intended - to treat) and is destructive to family and everyone else who come into a borderline's path. And also sad because it's destructive to the borderline person too.

There are a few success stories treatment wise but it's exceedingly rare. DBT offers some hope but practitioners are rare. Personally, I'm old school on this -- I still consider borderline pretty much untreatable.
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Agreed I'm a therapist and mostly provide cbt with a little mindfulness included for bpd. I just hope for small improvement and helping with insight. Very easy to get burn out with this population.
 
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triadvolfan said:
BTW, the way the liberals want this to play out is for all the universities to set up kangaroo courts where they 'convict' men of crimes where there is insufficient evidence to convict them in an actual court. That way they can still ruin their lives by getting them kicked out of school while avoiding any pesky due process.
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Quoted for truth.

IIRC, one of the parts of the lawsuit seemed to be that UT's due process creates a hostile environment...essentially because the accussed isnt immediately banished from the world and could potentially come face to face with his/her accuser.

Basically, if you're accused, what they would like is for you to be removed from campus entirely even though you've only been accused. To hell with laws, etc.

It's insane.
 
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VFL23 said:
Exactly what I have been saying this whole time. bUTch suspended the starting middle LB, and team leader within 48 hours of the incident. How is that not taking it serious and acting quickly? Oh I know, facts don't get clicks.

Also, if there was a settlement with the Peyton and "notright" case, how can she be talking about it openly and providing information to irresponsible reporters (whatever King is considered)?
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I think it's why TN will fight it and not settle. I think TN's lawyers are telling them that these cases have been handled the right way, and that if this makes it to the courtroom, then many of these allegations will be laughed at.
 
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triadvolfan said:
BTW, the way the liberals want this to play out is for all the universities to set up kangaroo courts where they 'convict' men of crimes where there is insufficient evidence to convict them in an actual court. That way they can still ruin their lives by getting them kicked out of school while avoiding any pesky due process.
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FTR, I'm pretty liberal myself and I don't want this at all. None of my liberal friends want this either. Only the Twitter/Tumblr social justice warrior who just finished their first semester of Women's Studies at college want this.

Personally I think Title IX has been a clusterf*** in general and trying to use it to make schools set up faux-courts is absurd. I know plenty of liberals who think the same.

Saying that "the liberals" want that is like saying that "the conservatives" want homosexuality punished by law. Yeah, those people exist, but it's not a mainstream view by any means and is a misrepresentation of the majority view. The political spectrum isn't just black and white.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Has no one paid any attention to how each and every assault case has been handled in the last 3+ years that Butch has been the HC? Not only Butch, but it is an UNIVERSITY policy that the player is immediately suspended from his/her sport that they participate in, as soon as they are accused of the crime and it goes under investigation. How is it the university, AD, coach, or anyone else's fault, except the individual that makes the stupid mistake, when that type of policy is in place and has clearly been followed???
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The media no longer believes in two sides to every story. They only believe who gets to the door first. Then when it is false they don't say anything about it because they look stupid. It's going to be just like Duke and UVA. They crucified them then when it was false they didn't even talk about it
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
FTR, I'm pretty liberal myself and I don't want this at all. None of my liberal friends want this either. Only the Twitter/Tumblr social justice warrior who just finished their first semester of Women's Studies at college want this.

Personally I think Title IX has been a clusterf*** in general and trying to use it to make schools set up faux-courts is absurd. I know plenty of liberals who think the same.

Saying that "the liberals" want that is like saying that "the conservatives" want homosexuality punished by law. Yeah, those people exist, but it's not a mainstream view by any means and is a misrepresentation of the majority view. The political spectrum isn't just black and white.
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Fair enough. I definitely painted too broad a brush.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
FTR, I'm pretty liberal myself and I don't want this at all. None of my liberal friends want this either. Only the Twitter/Tumblr social justice warrior who just finished their first semester of Women's Studies at college want this.

Personally I think Title IX has been a clusterf*** in general and trying to use it to make schools set up faux-courts is absurd. I know plenty of liberals who think the same.

Saying that "the liberals" want that is like saying that "the conservatives" want homosexuality punished by law. Yeah, those people exist, but it's not a mainstream view by any means and is a misrepresentation of the majority view. The political spectrum isn't just black and white.
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My man
 
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Heard that Big Gulp called into Finebaum today to defend UT and talk about his great experience here.

Long live the Gulp!!!!
 
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esands88 said:
Agreed I'm a therapist and mostly provide cbt with a little mindfulness included for bpd. I just hope for small improvement and helping with insight. Very easy to get burn out with this population.
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Bless you and thank you for what you do. Therapists and mental health workers in general, and especially those who provide things like CBT and DBT are some of the biggest unsung heroes in America. Too many think psychiatry and psychology are nothing more than quackery and that folks just use mental disorders to excuse behavior. :salute: :hi:

I wish people understood just how serious mental disorders can be and that Axis I dx's are brain disorders no different than any other illness - they are biological. Although I give more weight to Axis I some Axis II dx's are so embedded that they might as well be Axis I (yes I reject the DSM V as tainted by special interests also giving up the roman numeral to go to 5 wtf?!). But I also know that's my own bias showing through and think the suffering is still there but Axis IIs can often get better with treatment minus a few SMIs.

I'm probably just pissed they took away the Axis distinction as I found it helpful and more importantly, I think the key to destigmatizing mental illness is in educating the public about the fact that Axis I's are biological.

I'm also intrigued that some research indicates that some Axis II disorders show evidence of biological origins.

That said, ALL suffer emotionally and sometimes on a similar level. I hope and pray our country starts to take mental illness seriously but I'm not holding my breath.
 
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vol2002 said:
It's like a secular Taliban. Rewriting history and tearing down any nonconforming opinion with an air of unassailable self-righteousness. I find it frightening and not conducive to a truly free, democratic society. We need to be learning how to coexist with people we fundamentally disagree with, not how to marginalize and silence them.

Sorry for the rant.
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Good post - I agree.
 
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UTProf said:
Bless you and thank you for what you do. Therapists and mental health workers in general, and especially those who provide things like CBT and DBT are some of the biggest unsung heroes in America. Too many think psychiatry and psychology are nothing more than quackery and that folks just use mental disorders to excuse behavior. :salute: :hi:

I wish people understood just how serious mental disorders can be and that Axis I dx's are brain disorders no different than any other illness - they are biological. Although I give more weight to Axis I some Axis II dx's are so embedded that they might as well be Axis I (yes I reject the DSM V as tainted by special interests also giving up the roman numeral to go to 5 wtf?!). But I also know that's my own bias showing through and think the suffering is still there but Axis IIs can often get better with treatment minus a few SMIs.

I'm probably just pissed they took away the Axis distinction as I found it helpful and more importantly, I think the key to destigmatizing mental illness is in educating the public about the fact that Axis I's are biological.

I'm also intrigued that some research indicates that some Axis II disorders show evidence of biological origins.

That said, ALL suffer emotionally and sometimes on a similar level. I hope and pray our country starts to take mental illness seriously but I'm not holding my breath.
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Thank you
 
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volatil said:
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Darth_Shiveman said:
FTR, I'm pretty liberal myself and I don't want this at all. None of my liberal friends want this either. Only the Twitter/Tumblr social justice warrior who just finished their first semester of Women's Studies at college want this.

Personally I think Title IX has been a clusterf*** in general and trying to use it to make schools set up faux-courts is absurd. I know plenty of liberals who think the same.

Saying that "the liberals" want that is like saying that "the conservatives" want homosexuality punished by law. Yeah, those people exist, but it's not a mainstream view by any means and is a misrepresentation of the majority view. The political spectrum isn't just black and white.
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Truth.
 
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