Supreme Court Justice Scalia has passed away

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Currently with Scalia's passing we have two conservatives Alito and Thomas, two swing votes, Roberts and Kennedy, and four carte blanche liberals.
 
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Sandvol said:
Currently with Scalia's passing we have two conservatives Alito and Thomas, two swing votes, Roberts and Kennedy, and four carte blanche liberals.
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Roberts and Kennedy are both far more conservative than liberal. Occasionally they vote liberal, generally they are on the conservative side of the issue. Kennedy and Kagan are essentially mirror images of each other in terms of crossing lines. The same can be said for sotomayor and roberts.

Quite frankly I'm not sure what Thomas will do without scalia there to provide him an opinion. Hell, i don't think Thomas has spoken, literally complete silence, in more than a decade.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Roberts and Kennedy are both far more conservative than liberal. Occasionally they vote liberal, generally they are on the conservative side of the issue. Kennedy and Kagan are essentially mirror images of each other in terms of crossing lines. The same can be said for sotomayor and roberts.

Quite frankly I'm not sure what Thomas will do without scalia there to provide him an opinion. Hell, i don't think Thomas has spoken, literally complete silence, in more than a decade.
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If you look at carte blanche votes Thomas, Alito, Kagan, Sotomayor, Breyer, and Ginsberg. The two "nobody knows" votes are Kennedy and Roberts.
 
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Sandvol said:
You don't come across as a limited government kind of guy.
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I'm definitely in favor of limited government and curtailing spending. Limited doesn't have to mean uninvolved or not working for all of the citizens. There has to be a balance that can be struck. I'm also in favor of single purpose law making. I'm in favor of limiting political lobbying. All dinners, parties, drinks and other gifts from lobbyists should be limited, taxed, reported and reviewed.
 
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Sandvol said:
If you look at carte blanche votes Thomas, Alito, Kagan, Sotomayor, Breyer, and Ginsberg. The two "nobody knows" votes are Kennedy and Roberts.
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Again, Kagan and Kennedy cross about the same amount of time. Each of them are moderate within their respective ideologies. Same with roberts and Sotomayor. However, each of those two are more set within their respective ideologies. The two least liberal within the four liberal judges are the two picked by Obama.
 
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I guess that the new normal is that any Senate, faced with an opposing party president, refuses to take up the nominee, even in committee. And you can do it for four years if you can do it for 1, right? You can always make the argument that the next election should decide the issue.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I guess that the new normal is that any Senate, faced with an opposing party president, refuses to take up the nominee, even in committee. And you can do it for four years if you can do it for 1, right? You can always make the argument that the next election should decide the issue.
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That is the question i asked several pages back.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I guess that the new normal is that any Senate, faced with an opposing party president, refuses to take up the nominee, even in committee. And you can do it for four years if you can do it for 1, right? You can always make the argument that the next election should decide the issue.
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There's no ****ing way your boys nominee will be approved by this senate, even you can't be that delusional. Advantage GOP
 
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lawgator1 said:
I guess that the new normal is that any Senate, faced with an opposing party president, refuses to take up the nominee, even in committee. And you can do it for four years if you can do it for 1, right? You can always make the argument that the next election should decide the issue.
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You and I both know if the nominee is Loretta Lynch (I see that name being tossed around a lot today) that idea is DOA. She had a hard enough time getting confirmed at the AG. You honestly think she gets confirmed for the SCOTUS?
 
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You are getting a minority by Obama here. This person will not be confirmed and Obama needs to get as much political play out of the rejection as possible.
 
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allvol123 said:
You are getting a minority by Obama here. This person will not be confirmed and Obama needs to get as much political play out of the rejection as possible.
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I still think Sri Srinivasan gets the nod and if the Republicans refuse to even consider him they will come off looking foolish.

GV had a very pragmatic approach and if the Republicans suggested working together on this one, it would paint Obama in a corner if he refused. Instead of the Republicans looking like petulant children it would be the dems.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I still think Sri Srinivasan gets the nod and if the Republicans refuse to even consider him they will come off looking foolish.

GV had a very pragmatic approach and if the Republicans suggested working together on this one, it would paint Obama in a corner if he refused. Instead of the Republicans looking like petulant children it would be the dems.
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Just exercising their Constitutional authority.
 
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FLVOL69 said:
There's no ****ing way your boys nominee will be approved by this senate, even you can't be that delusional. Advantage GOP
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I have a possible solution to the problem. The Republican Senate would confer anyone Obama chooses, provided they are allowed to smother Ruth Bader Ginsburg with a pillow on Jan. 21, 2017 if they win the election. If a Democrat wins the election, she would be allowed to live, and if a Republican wins, she dies like Scalia, and gets replaced by the Republican President.
 
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Sandvol said:
Just exercising their Constitutional authority.
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Looking like immature school children as they do so. The problem for the Republicans may arise during that 17 day period in January after new senators are seated but prior to the new president taking the oath. Even worse would be HRC winning the WH.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I still think Sri Srinivasan gets the nod and if the Republicans refuse to even consider him they will come off looking foolish.

GV had a very pragmatic approach and if the Republicans suggested working together on this one, it would paint Obama in a corner if he refused. Instead of the Republicans looking like petulant children it would be the dems.
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They should consider whoever, then politely reject.

Obama has always looked like a petulant child to me, I have no need for anyone to paint him in a place that makes him look so.

They should let the official office of the president elect make this nomination. That was humor.
 
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FLVOL69 said:
There's no ****ing way your boys nominee will be approved by this senate, even you can't be that delusional. Advantage GOP
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Grand Vol said:
You and I both know if the nominee is Loretta Lynch (I see that name being tossed around a lot today) that idea is DOA. She had a hard enough time getting confirmed at the AG. You honestly think she gets confirmed for the SCOTUS?
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If they have a coherent reason to vote against the nominee in committee or on the floor, that is their constitutional duty.
 
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lawgator1 said:
If they have a coherent reason to vote against the nominee in committee or on the floor, that is their constitutional duty.
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And you will incoherently babble on about partisanship and right wing lunatics doing same just for fundraising material.
 
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I typically have very little trust in the Senate Republicans to do anything right, but I think they may get this one right. No way can we let this far left loon, put up another far left loon on the court
 
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