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Grand Vol said:
Those people don't like the way the US runs? They feel it's racist and unforgiving? They feel discriminated against at every turn?

Move. Simple, easy, effective. Go to a place where that race can have an egalitarian society free of such things.

But just remember, separatism is racism. Don't try to confuse yourself by thinking it's anything but.
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But we didn't come here by our own will. We were brought by force. This is why you can't just use this get out if you don't like it here. Black folks have as much right to ownership of this country as white folks. Remember this country belonged to the Native Americans before it was stolen.

If black folks want to separate they have the right to a piece of America for their own. They're not some normal immigrant group that just came here. Black folks have as much right to this land as white folks.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
But we didn't come here by our own will. We were brought by force. This you can't just use this get out if you don't like it here. Black folks have as much right to ownership of this country as white folks. Remember this country belonged to the Native Americans before it was stolen.

If black folks want to separate they have the right to a piece of America for their own. They're not some normal immigrant group that just came here. Black folks have as much right to this land as white folks.
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Sounds like your calling for a "civil war part 2" so "we" fight it out and see who wins?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
If they truly desire democracy, they need to expel the mullahs that are forcing the religious oppression on them.
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Well I was mainly talking about what occurred during the 1950s. But there is a large majority of Iranians who would love to see the current government make a major change. In 2009 many tried, but it ultimately failed.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
But we didn't come here by our own will. We were brought by force. This is why you can't just use this get out if you don't like it here. Black folks have as much right to ownership of this country as white folks. Remember this country belonged to the Native Americans before it was stolen.

If black folks want to separate they have the right to a piece of America for their own. They're not some normal immigrant group that just came here. Black folks have as much right to this land as white folks.
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Wtf
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
But we didn't come here by our own will. We were brought by force. This is why you can't just use this get out if you don't like it here. Black folks have as much right to ownership of this country as white folks. Remember this country belonged to the Native Americans before it was stolen.

If black folks want to separate they have the right to a piece of America for their own. They're not some normal immigrant group that just came here. Black folks have as much right to this land as white folks.
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Secession has been tried in the US, and a few hundred thousand people died. We tried segregation, which lead to untold number of crimes and injustice against black people for decades. NOI's pushing a separate but equal idea, and we all know how well that worked out in the South. And think about it, NOI wants a separate nation on American soil for black people? Well, we tried that as well. Drive to a Native American reservation if you want to see how well that has worked out.

We either live together equally and with the same rights, or tear each other apart. That is what our history teaches us.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I don't think the NOI is racist. You implied that from my answer.

The NOI was a great organization for black folks cause they stressed black empowerment at a time when black folks were regarded as second class citizens.
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The NOI is listed as a hate group by the southern poverty law center because they preach that white Devils were made in a lab by the biblical Jacob (they preferred the Hebrew spelling, Yakub).

Please explain to me how this isn't racist?

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/nation-islam

Read some of their statements and views sometime. I think it's clear you never have.
 
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Vol8188 said:
The NOI is listed as a hate group by the southern poverty law center because they preach that white Devils were made in a lab by the biblical Jacob (they preferred the Hebrew spelling, Yakub).

Please explain to me how this isn't racist?

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/nation-islam

Read some of their statements and views sometime. I think it's clear you never have.
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Actually, when MSNBC says your group is racist, you've probably gone a little too far.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
But we didn't come here by our own will. We were brought by force. This is why you can't just use this get out if you don't like it here. Black folks have as much right to ownership of this country as white folks. Remember this country belonged to the Native Americans before it was stolen.

If black folks want to separate they have the right to a piece of America for their own. They're not some normal immigrant group that just came here. Black folks have as much right to this land as white folks.
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We gave them their own land. It's called Liberia. Read up on your history. I'd still happily pay for any black separatist or NOI member who wanted their own land, a one way ticket to Liberia.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I don't think the NOI is racist. You implied that from my answer.

The NOI was a great organization for black folks cause they stressed black empowerment at a time when black folks were regarded as second class citizens.
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NOI is definitely racist. The Black Panthers, however, were/are not. Big difference between these two.
 
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mrorange211 said:
NOI is definitely racist. The Black Panthers, however, were/are not. Big difference between these two.
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The original black panther party that no longer exists, you could make that argument about. The current New BPP on the other hand is 100% a hate group and is even ran by NOI members
 
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Vol8188 said:
The original black panther party that longer exists, you could make that argument about. The current New BPP on the other hand is 100% a hate group and is even ran by NOI members
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I don't disagree. Just pointing out that there is a big difference in the two historically.
 
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mrorange211 said:
I don't disagree. Just pointing out that there is a big difference in the two historically.
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I understand. I just think it's important to state the difference in the original and the New BPP. I imagine they gain a lot of young impressionable minds ever year, who don't truly know the difference between the two parties.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
But we didn't come here by our own will. We were brought by force. This is why you can't just use this get out if you don't like it here. Black folks have as much right to ownership of this country as white folks. Remember this country belonged to the Native Americans before it was stolen.

If black folks want to separate they have the right to a piece of America for their own. They're not some normal immigrant group that just came here. Black folks have as much right to this land as white folks.
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If you guys leave and form your own country, what will we do with all our empty prisons and 26" rims?
 
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Mr_Henley said:
So is Kasich the VP for almost everyone on stage?
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I think there is a chance that Carson was indeed going to drop out after New Hampshire, and Trump convinced him to stick around to divide the Cruz evangelical vote in the South. For this, Trump may offer him the VP spot.

They seem to get along rather well, and stood together off stage after their names were called and neither came out until everyone was on stage in the next to last debate. They came out as a pair.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I think there is a chance that Carson was indeed going to drop out after New Hampshire, and Trump convinced him to stick around to divide the Cruz evangelical vote in the South. For this, Trump may offer him the VP spot.

They seem to get along rather well, and stood together off stage after their names were called and neither came out until everyone was on stage in the next to last debate. They came out as a pair.
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Re watch that. They hung back together, then Carson got called again and came out, then Trump, and then Chritie asked the moderators about Kasich as he was still off stage.
 
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Rubio and Kasich had the best debate nights. In my mind those two will eventually be on the GOP ticket.

Cruz is a merciless politician but he's not electable on the national stage and some of his plans re: migrants and foreign policy are simply not viable.

Trump actually acted like a 12 year old last night. Never had any specificity to his policies beyond making broad statements. It's interesting to me because he is quite liberal on certain issues and yet he's attracting a heavily conservative base and not moderates in the primaries.

Bush had an OK night but he's done in my mind. His campaign advisors obviously told him to go in attack mode - it didn't work - it just made him more unlikeable.

Carson is redundant and should drop out.
 
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