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Vol8188 said:
Gramps laid it all out for you very well. Cruz lies constantly. The difference is he wasn't placed in the position Hillary was. So his lies have had lesser consequences.

It's just more reason why we shouldn't put him in a position where his lies could kill people
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So you would rather see Hillary in the job then?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
So you would rather see Hillary in the job then?
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Honestly? Hilary's already won. And I'm not to blame for that. Trump and his independent campaign will be.

But if you're asking me given the choice of two draft dodgers (trump and sanders), a pathological liar from Canada, and a woman who should be in jail who would I vote for?

The answer is none of them.
 
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Gramps said:
Ob you just posted yesterday you was voting for Cruz, have you changed your mind?

We all know everyone voting for Hillary is giving her a pass for her lies.

We all know that everyone voting for Cruz is giving him a pass for his lies.
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It was tongue and cheek over his comment about the IRS.

Sorry I should have used blue font
 
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Vol8188 said:
Honestly? Hilary's already won. And I'm not to blame for that. Trump and his independent campaign will be.

But if you're asking me given the choice of two draft dodgers (trump and sanders), a pathological liar from Canada, and a woman who should be in jail who would I vote for?

The answer is none of them.
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lulz
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I don't know how else I can say it. Hillary is probably responsible for Americans dying due to gross incompetence and blatant negligence. It is an apples and bowling balls comparison.
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I don't know how else to say it but it is dumb to justify one candidate lying because another candidate lies. That is really a ridiculous argument
 
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Gramps said:
A liar is a liar period.

If you disqualify Hillary because she lies, Cruz must also be disqualified.

Hillary has been in a position of power that could have potential to have Americans killed in the field, Cruz has not.

Cruz has shown what a lair he is during the last 2 debates.

If you want to support a liar don't try to justify his lying because his opponent lies. Two wrongs does not make a right.
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Vol8188 said:
Not at all. I'm being honest. You can't call Hillary a liar and defend trump and Cruz. It's absurd
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This is like comparing a person who stole a pack of chewing gum from a 7-11, and a person who robbed a bank which risked people being killed.

Yes... they are both thiefs. No... they are not the same.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Sure. And it's a good one too. Just off the top of my head, I have the last Skynyrd album with the fire on the cover.

What you really want though is my football cards. Gale Sayres, Brian Piccolo, Bart Starr and Johnny U.
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From the way you post, seems like you'd have a badass collection. I really need to delve into jazz more than I have.


Never was into football or baseball cards. When I was a kid I always thought basketball cards did the best job of depicting a player in actual game situations.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
This is like comparing a person who stole a pack of chewing gum from a 7-11, and a person who robbed a bank which risked people being killed.

Yes... they are both thiefs. No... they are not the same.
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We all know Cruz is a liar. We all know Hillary is a liar.

To this point Cruz has not been in a position to put American lives in danger, Hillary has. That is the only difference.

Those that are voting for Cruz or Hillary are voting for a known liar to be Commander in Chief.

That is common sense.
 
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Don't kill yourself, spaceghost. I wouldn't be able to enjoy the records if you did that. I'll just wait til old age gets ya.
 
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Gramps said:
We all know Cruz is a liar. We all know Hillary is a liar.

To this point Cruz has not been in a position to put American lives in danger, Hillary has. That is the only difference.

Those that are voting for Cruz or Hillary are voting for a known liar to be Commander in Chief.

That is common sense.
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If those two are the choices I'm voting independent.
 
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Gramps said:
I don't know how else to say it but it is dumb to justify one candidate lying because another candidate lies. That is really a ridiculous argument
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Again Gramps, I am not justifying or defending anybody. This is strictly a lesser of two evils argument. Hillary is far and away the more evil of the two.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Again Gramps, I am not justifying or defending anybody. This is strictly a lesser of two evils argument. Hillary is far and away the more evil of the two.
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You nor I neither one knows which one is more evil than the other or if either one is.

Yes your postings have been trying to defend the Canadian that is obivious. Go back and read your comments.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
If you do that, and are in a swing state, it is the same as voting for Hillary.
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I'd rather see Hillary rendered powerless by Congress and voted out after four years than live with myself voting for Cruz. I couldn't live with myself actually putting a checkmark next to her name either.
 
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Gramps said:
We all know Cruz is a liar. We all know Hillary is a liar.

To this point Cruz has not been in a position to put American lives in danger, Hillary has. That is the only difference.

Those that are voting for Cruz or Hillary are voting for a known liar to be Commander in Chief.

That is common sense.
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No, it is not common sense. It is judgement based on an assumption. You are assuming that anyone who stole a pack of gum will turn into a bank robber because they are both thieves, and the only thing preventing that is the opportunity to rob a bank. I'm sorry, but that is an incorrect assumption and an unfair judgement.

Your issue with Cruz clearly goes well beyond his lies, as everyone on that stage has lied at some point in their lives. Does that make them all as corrupt as Hillary? No... it does not.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
No, it is not common sense. It is judgement based on an assumption. You are assuming that anyone who stole a pack of gum will turn into a bank robber because they are both thieves, and the only thing preventing that is the opportunity to rob a bank. I'm sorry, but that is an incorrect assumption and an unfair judgement.

Your issue with Cruz clearly goes well beyond his lies, as everyone on that stage has lied at some point in their lives. Does that make them all as corrupt as Hillary? No... it does not.
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No I have pointed out that one has been in a position of power that put lives in danger. The other has not, however the facts are both are liars.

Exactly what has the other candidates lied about. Please be specific.
 
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Gramps said:
You nor I neither one knows which one is more evil than the other or if either one is.

Yes your postings have been trying to defend the Canadian that is obivious. Go back and read your comments.
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No that is what you want to see. I am not defending him. I don't know enough about the man to render an opinion one way or the other. The one thing about him I will say is that he was elected a Tea Party conservative and from what I gather he is representing his constituents as such. that is in no way to be construed as a defense of the man. If you view it as such, that is your problem.

Hillary made available to - God knows who - compartmentalized secrets. Knowingly, and in the process wrecklessly endangering American operatives in the field.
 
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apevol said:
I'd rather see Hillary rendered powerless by Congress and voted out after four years than live with myself voting for Cruz. I couldn't live with myself actually putting a checkmark next to her name either.
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I don;t think she could be rendered powerless by Congress. Not THIS one anyway. They have shown zero backbone so far in dealing with the idiot king. She knows where the bodies are buried. I'll betcha she has enough dirt on everybody in DC to pass just about anything she wants. I get what you are saying though. Hopefully the FBI will make the Clinton/Cruz argument moot anyway.
 
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Gramps said:
No I have pointed out that one has been in a position of power that put lives in danger. The other has not, however the facts are both are liars.

Exactly what has the other candidates lied about. Please be specific.
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They all say they want what's best for America first and foremost. That is the biggest lie of all.
 
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Gramps said:
No I have pointed out that one has been in a position of power that put lives in danger. The other has not, however the facts are both are liars.

Exactly what has the other candidates lied about. Please be specific.
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And I've agreed with that (e.g. both robbers are thieves) as one stole a pack of gum and one robbed a bank. I'm saying they are not equivalent and you are saying they are.
 
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