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Grand Vol said:
The big exception being Rand Paul supporters. I can see some moving if Rubio is the nominee, but it'll be like 2012 when the majority of Ron Paul supporters didn't move to Romney.

That's not a slam against Rand supporters either. Just reality.
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That really depends on Rand, his followers are quite cultish. If he endorsed and supported the nominee his followers might also.
 
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Notice the swing after Iowa.

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Grand Vol said:
They are slightly more even keeled than Ron's supporters were (are).
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Many of Ron's supporters were unprincipled and just liked him for the anti-establishment sentiment, legal weed, and his foreign policy. They're now supporting Bernie and (to a lesser extent) Trump. And Cruz probably took some who saw that Rand wasn't viable this year.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Maybe Rubio can get John Boehner, Eddie Cantor, and their likes, to campaign for him.

People who will not be campaigning for Rubio are Jeff Sessions and Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
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You named all the guys who endorsed Bush. But here's the list of Rubio endorsements.


U.S. Governors (former)
Robert List, Nevada (former)[517]
George Pataki, New York (former); 2016 presidential candidate[518]
George Allen, Virginia (former Virginia Governor and Senator)[519]
Scott McCallum, Wisconsin (former)[520]

U.S. Senators (current and former)
Arizona: Jon Kyl (former)[521]
Arkansas: Tim Hutchinson (former)[522]
Colorado: Cory Gardner[523]
Idaho: Jim Risch[524]
Montana: Steve Daines[525]
Oklahoma: Jim Inhofe[526]
South Carolina: Tim Scott[527]
Texas: Phil Gramm (former)[528]

U.S. Representatives (current and former)
California: Doug LaMalfa,[529] and Darrell Issa[530]
Colorado: Mike Coffman[531]
Florida: Tom Rooney[3]
Georgia: Austin Scott[532]
Illinois: Darin LaHood[533]
Indiana: Todd Rokita,[534] Larry Bucshon[535] and Chris Chocola (former)[536]
Kansas: Mike Pompeo[537]
Kentucky: Anne Northup (former)[538]
Michigan: John Moolenaar,[539] and Bill Huizenga[540]
Missouri: Jason T. Smith[541]
North Carolina: Robin Hayes (former)[542]
Oklahoma: Markwayne Mullin[543]
South Carolina: Trey Gowdy[544]
South Dakota: Kristi Noem[537]
Tennessee: Zach Wamp (former).[545]
Utah: (Whole House Delegation) Chris Stewart,[546] Mia Love[547] Rob Bishop,[548] and Jason Chaffetz[549]
Virginia: Scott Rigell[550] and Barbara Comstock[551]
Washington: Jaime Herrera Beutler[552]
Wisconsin: Sean Duffy[553]

U.S. Ambassadors (former)
Skip Vallee, former Ambassador to Slovakia (2005–2007)[554]
Victor Ashe, former Ambassador to Poland (2004–2009) and former Bush supporter[555]

Republican National Committee members
(former)
Bill Armistead, chair of Alabama GOP (2011–2015)[556]
Jerry Labriola Jr., chair of Connecticut GOP (2011–2015).[557][558]
Robert Maginn, chair of Massachusetts GOP (2011–2013)[559]
Arnie Hederman, chairman of the Mississippi GOP (2011–2012)[560]
Ferrell Blount, former NCGOP chairman[542]
Stan Lockhart, former Utah GOP chair[546]

Business people
Wayne Berman, donor and fundraiser[649][650]
Norman Braman, former owner of the Philadelphia Eagles, billionaire[107][651][652]
Larry Ellison, co-founder and former CEO of Oracle Corporation[653]
Jose 'Pepe' Fanjul, sugar industry[107]
Paul Singer, businessman, investor, billionaire[654]
Frank L. VanderSloot, entrepreneur, radio network owner, rancher[655]
John Rakolta, CEO of Walbridge[656]
Kenneth C. Griffin, founder and CEO of Citadel[657]
Art Pope, philanthropist and businessman[658]
Gary Shapiro, President and CEO of the Consumer Electronics Association[659]
Larry Nichols, chairman of Devon Energy[660]
 
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carlos86 said:
You named all the guys who endorsed Bush. But here's the list of Rubio endorsements.


U.S. Governors (former)
Robert List, Nevada (former)[517]
George Pataki, New York (former); 2016 presidential candidate[518]
George Allen, Virginia (former Virginia Governor and Senator)[519]
Scott McCallum, Wisconsin (former)[520]

U.S. Senators (current and former)
Arizona: Jon Kyl (former)[521]
Arkansas: Tim Hutchinson (former)[522]
Colorado: Cory Gardner[523]
Idaho: Jim Risch[524]
Montana: Steve Daines[525]
Oklahoma: Jim Inhofe[526]
South Carolina: Tim Scott[527]
Texas: Phil Gramm (former)[528]

U.S. Representatives (current and former)
California: Doug LaMalfa,[529] and Darrell Issa[530]
Colorado: Mike Coffman[531]
Florida: Tom Rooney[3]
Georgia: Austin Scott[532]
Illinois: Darin LaHood[533]
Indiana: Todd Rokita,[534] Larry Bucshon[535] and Chris Chocola (former)[536]
Kansas: Mike Pompeo[537]
Kentucky: Anne Northup (former)[538]
Michigan: John Moolenaar,[539] and Bill Huizenga[540]
Missouri: Jason T. Smith[541]
North Carolina: Robin Hayes (former)[542]
Oklahoma: Markwayne Mullin[543]
South Carolina: Trey Gowdy[544]
South Dakota: Kristi Noem[537]
Tennessee: Zach Wamp (former).[545]
Utah: (Whole House Delegation) Chris Stewart,[546] Mia Love[547] Rob Bishop,[548] and Jason Chaffetz[549]
Virginia: Scott Rigell[550] and Barbara Comstock[551]
Washington: Jaime Herrera Beutler[552]
Wisconsin: Sean Duffy[553]

U.S. Ambassadors (former)
Skip Vallee, former Ambassador to Slovakia (2005–2007)[554]
Victor Ashe, former Ambassador to Poland (2004–2009) and former Bush supporter[555]

Republican National Committee members
(former)
Bill Armistead, chair of Alabama GOP (2011–2015)[556]
Jerry Labriola Jr., chair of Connecticut GOP (2011–2015).[557][558]
Robert Maginn, chair of Massachusetts GOP (2011–2013)[559]
Arnie Hederman, chairman of the Mississippi GOP (2011–2012)[560]
Ferrell Blount, former NCGOP chairman[542]
Stan Lockhart, former Utah GOP chair[546]

Business people
Wayne Berman, donor and fundraiser[649][650]
Norman Braman, former owner of the Philadelphia Eagles, billionaire[107][651][652]
Larry Ellison, co-founder and former CEO of Oracle Corporation[653]
Jose 'Pepe' Fanjul, sugar industry[107]
Paul Singer, businessman, investor, billionaire[654]
Frank L. VanderSloot, entrepreneur, radio network owner, rancher[655]
John Rakolta, CEO of Walbridge[656]
Kenneth C. Griffin, founder and CEO of Citadel[657]
Art Pope, philanthropist and businessman[658]
Gary Shapiro, President and CEO of the Consumer Electronics Association[659]
Larry Nichols, chairman of Devon Energy[660]
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A long list of mostly RINOs and special interests groups, like the corporate sugar industry.

Now, if the Boy can get Jeb Bush to eventually endorse him..........
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
A long list of mostly RINOs and special interests groups, like the corporate sugar industry.

Now, if the Boy can get Jeb Bush to eventually endorse him..........
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So you criticize Rubios endorsements but are ok with Trumps positions on issues no less then 5 years ago? Trump fanboys are the worst.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
A long list of mostly RINOs and special interests groups, like the corporate sugar industry.

Now, if the Boy can get Jeb Bush to eventually endorse him..........
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I didn't know Tim Scott, Mia Love, Zach Wamp, Trey Gowdy and Cory Gardner were RINOs. This is why the word RINO no longer has meaning. It's just a label to be used against people who don't support your liberal progressive "I'm suddenly a God fearing conservative republican" candidate.
 
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volfanhill said:
So you criticize Rubios endorsements but are ok with Trumps positions on issues no less then 5 years ago? Trump fanboys are the worst.
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The trump supporters just want loud mouthed rhetoric. He hasn't said one thing of substance that he has a chance of accomplishing as POTUS. He just give sound bites that are all the same sounding.

Mexico (you can insert any country) is not our friend.

I'm going to build the best wall (insert any project). It'll be great. It really will. I've built some beautiful walls, but this will be really great. It'll make America great again.
 
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carlos86 said:
I didn't know Tim Scott, Mia Love, Zach Wamp, Trey Gowdy and Cory Gardner were RINOs. This is why the word RINO no longer has meaning. It's just a label to be used against people who don't support your liberal progressive "I'm suddenly a God fearing conservative republican" candidate.
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Jason Chaffetz, pure RINO.
 
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carlos86 said:
I didn't know Tim Scott, Mia Love, Zach Wamp, Trey Gowdy and Cory Gardner were RINOs. This is why the word RINO no longer has meaning. It's just a label to be used against people who don't support your liberal progressive "I'm suddenly a God fearing conservative republican" candidate.
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The key word in my post was, MOSTLY.

RINO means more now than it ever has. Welcome aboard Marco Rubio. John McCain and Mitt Romney will enjoy your company.
 
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