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volprof said:
Pardon me if I don't associate "In your face-ism" with manliness and being tough. Trump is a whiny little teen, who acts like he's undergoing puberty and the social anxieties associated with it. He lacks the discipline and self-restraint that should be the virtues of the public sphere. His is incredibly weak behavior and behavior not befitting a man, especially a leader and a statesman. Whatever you think of Obama, his policies, and his "mom jeans," he at least acts like he's been there.
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I guess you'd know..... You've thrown more prepubescent tantrums on VN than anyone..... By a very wide margin
 
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Vol8188 said:
People like him because he's a fear monger. That's all he did during the debate. He referred to ISIS as apocalyptic

And to answer that I'm going back through the link because all I saw was a bunch of tweets
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Because that's what ISIS believes. They believe that in order for the world to end there first must a caliphate .
 
#5,806
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Vol8188 said:
People like him because he's a fear monger. That's all he did during the debate. He referred to ISIS as apocalyptic

And to answer that I'm going back through the link because all I saw was a bunch of tweets
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Should he have referred to ISIS as the JV? Would that have made you feel better?
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Should he have referred to ISIS as the JV? Would that have made you feel better?
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I'd just like to see a real plan as opposed to "I'm going to blow things up".

Because idk if you're aware of this or not: but the "I'm just going to blow **** up" foreign policy of Bush and Obama is what created ISIS.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I'd just like to see a real plan as opposed to "I'm going to blow things up".

Because idk if you're aware of this or not: but the "I'm just going to blow **** up" foreign policy of Bush and Obama is what created ISIS.
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Just " blowing $::t up" will never work.
 
#5,811
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Des Moines Register polls released:

GOP:
Trump - 28
Cruz - 23
Rubio - 15
Carson - 10
Paul - 5
Christie - 3

Dems:
Clinton: 45
Sanders: 42
 
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Vol8188 said:
I'd just like to see a real plan as opposed to "I'm going to blow things up".

Because idk if you're aware of this or not: but the "I'm just going to blow **** up" foreign policy of Bush and Obama is what created ISIS.
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No the diplomatic and military Withdrawal from Iraq created ISIS.
 
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I think HRC takes Iowa, especially with how messed up the Democratic caucus procedure is. Even if she loses the popular vote she would likely get more delegates if I understand correctly.

Still not sure about the GOP. Depends on turnout.
 
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UTCVol said:
I think HRC takes Iowa, especially with how messed up the Democratic caucus procedure is. Even if she loses the popular vote she would likely get more delegates if I understand correctly.

Still not sure about the GOP. Depends on turnout.
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If 200,000 people show up like Fox is estimatating then Trump wins. If it's the normal sized caucus crowd them Cruz wins with Rubio in Second.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Proceed?
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Like with ISIS. They believe in Sunni Muslim legend that in order for God to return to earth there first must be a caliphate and a war against the infidels led by the Khalif. That's nor warmongering that's the truth. And the rise of ISIS is not as simple as the U.S. entered Iraq and caused it with war.
 
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Obsessed said:
America Has Told Us Who the ‘Real Winner’ of the Fox News Debate Is Tonight


Interesting. I could vote for him.

Gramps- I'm curious to your opinion on the leader of the debate determined by these focus groups.
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Ob I don't see the different focus groups, on my phone that may be the problem. I see a lot of tweets, I must admit I don't talk tweet.

On front page it say Rubio was the winner. He may very well be. I think of the candidates in attendance Jeb, Rand and Rubio had the best night. One could declare either one the winner. I then would put Christi 4th, Kasich 5th, Carson 6th Cruz 7th.


IMO the big overall winner was Trump. He made a brilliant move by skipping, having his veterans event. He controlled the airtime and it was FREE.
 
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carlos86 said:
Like with ISIS. They believe in Sunni Muslim legend that in order for God to return to earth there first must be a caliphate and a war against the infidels led by the Khalif. That's nor warmongering that's the truth. And the rise of ISIS is not as simple as the U.S. entered Iraq and caused it with war.
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If we hadn't entered Iraq the rise of ISIS wouldn't have occurred. Its really that simple.

And yes goin out of your way to call them "apocalyptic" multiple times is warmongering. It's a simple scare tactic
 
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My favorite part of US and Middle East relations:

Nearly everyone hijacker on 9/11.

The majority of ISIS fighters and funding.


Wanna guess what those two things have in common? Their origin. Saudi Arabia.

But US politicians want to invade Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria. While we suck off the Saudis.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Paul's ahead of Christie and several others who you think will stay in the race? Why?
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Most of them focused more resources on New Hampshire, so they'll at least wait until after that.

I'm not sure Paul will drop out but placing only 5th in Iowa would be a death knell.
 
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