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LA Vol said:
The Sheriff vs. Scam Newton.

People get nicknames for a reason.
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I've never understood the cam hate. Other than some obnoxious show boating that never crosses into unsportsmanlike taunting of the other team, he seems nice enough. Works hard, answers media questions honestly, gives footballs to kids...you don't have to like him, but man he has some haters.
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
I'll admit I'm not a fan of Newton at all. That said if you don't want to see him dancing and showboating on offense, the defense could stop him.
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So the dancing is the only thing that bothers you? I mean, it's kind of stupid, but by itself it doesn't seem like reason enough to dislike him.
 
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I think it is the cheating, getting paid at Auburn, his past at UF and the overall smug attitude.

However, I like him and he is one hell of a QB.
 
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SpringBokVol said:
I think it is the cheating, getting paid at Auburn, his past at UF and the overall smug attitude.

However, I like him and he is one hell of a QB.
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Wed hate a lot of people if we hated all the ones who got paid in college

I'll agree on the thievery though. I don't love him, but I don't hate him either.
 
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jave36 said:
I've never understood the cam hate. Other than some obnoxious show boating that never crosses into unsportsmanlike taunting of the other team, he seems nice enough. Works hard, answers media questions honestly, gives footballs to kids...you don't have to like him, but man he has some haters.
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Speaking generally, a lot of people don't like Cam because they're convinced he got paid to pay at Auburn... after getting caught stealing a laptop, which got him kicked out of UF. Many people do find his showboating unsportsmanslike, and it reinforces their negative perception of him.

edit: SpringBokVol beat me to it, but yeah, that's why.
 
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LA Vol said:
Speaking generally, a lot of people don't like Cam because they're convinced he got paid to pay at Auburn... after getting caught stealing a laptop, which got him kicked out of UF. Many people do find his showboating unsportsmanslike, and it reinforces their negative perception of him.
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Those people must be naive if they don't think every single sec program has kids getting money.

He showboats on the field, but I don't see the smugness off the field personally.
 
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Cam and Peyton is comparing apples and oranges.

Pro style QB vs a mobile QB with a strong arm.

Peyton threw for less than 4000 yards only 3 times in his entire career including 2300 yards this year despite sitting for an extended amount of the season.

Cam has never thrown for 4000 yards. He makes up for it with his legs.

Both are great but not comparable.
 
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jave36 said:
So the dancing is the only thing that bothers you? I mean, it's kind of stupid, but by itself it doesn't seem like reason enough to dislike him.
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No, I don't care for the guy for the UF theft stuff, the AU cash stuff, and other things. I mentioned the showboating stuff as that's what is in the news and debated now with other teams and fans not caring for it.
 
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volatil said:
Cam and Peyton is comparing apples and oranges.

Pro style QB vs a mobile QB with a strong arm.

Peyton threw for less than 4000 yards only 3 times in his entire career including 2300 yards this year despite sitting for an extended amount of the season.

Cam has never thrown for 4000 yards. He makes up for it with his legs.

Both are great but not comparable.
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Yep, one is the GOAT, the other is really good. 🤔

I am a Marino guy though. Lol
 
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The original argument was the Newton wasn't as talented as Manning coming out. Said he couldn't pass like Manning coming out. Only way you can judge it is based on their first years. IMO Newton came in and lit it up Year 1. Am I discrediting what Peyton has done? No I am not. I'm simply proving a point. To say Newton was so far behind Manning coming out of college passing the ball is crazy. You saw Cam running and passing a team to a championship in that system. Then you watch him show extreme arm talent as soon as he hit the pros. Will he break Manning's records? Probably not because they will not surround him with a loaded WR group. They'll continue to make him do it all. And for all of you dogging his character I bet quite a few of our players during the Fulmer years were well off after signing. 😂😂😂😂
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
No, I don't care for the guy for the UF theft stuff, the AU cash stuff, and other things. I mentioned the showboating stuff as that's what is in the news and debated now with other teams and fans not caring for it.
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Celebrate a TD. Thats fine with me. But a first down at your own 30 yard line in the middle of the second quarter for 7 seconds is dumb af.

I personally don't hate the guy but that part of his game is annoying. Its the same as fsu playing their fight song after giving up 9 yards on first down. Same level of dumb af to me.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
The original argument was the Newton wasn't as talented as Manning coming out. Said he couldn't pass like Manning coming out. Only way you can judge it is based on their first years. IMO Newton came in and lit it up Year 1. Am I discrediting what Peyton has done? No I am not. I'm simply proving a point. To say Newton was so far behind Manning coming out of college passing the ball is crazy. You saw Cam running and passing a team to a championship in that system. Then you watch him show extreme arm talent as soon as he hit the pros. Will he break Manning's records? Probably not because they will not surround him with a loaded WR group. They'll continue to make him do it all. And for all of you dogging his character I bet quite a few of our players during the Fulmer years were well off after signing. 😂😂😂😂
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Harrison and Wayne were excellent and much better than Cam has had to work with. However, Manning helped a tad. He made Clark, Tamme, Stokley, etc relevant in fantasy football. Tamme!
 
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I think Cam is a great football player, but I'm glad Peyton is UT's representative in the Super Bowl. And Peyton is the player I would want as a role model for my kids. I expect he will win or lose with class. Who knows-- Peyton, Colquitt and MJackson might even dance if the Broncos win and someone plays Rocky Top.
 
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utvols88 said:
Celebrate a TD. Thats fine with me. But a first down at your own 30 yard line in the middle of the second quarter for 7 seconds is dumb af.

I personally don't hate the guy but that part of his game is annoying. Its the same as fsu playing their fight song after giving up 9 yards on first down. Same level of dumb af to me.
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He starts one of those 1st down dances in the super bowl I would not be upset at all If Malik Jackson took it upon himself to choke slam Cam. Just sayin.
 
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utvols88 said:
I think chocolate chip pancakes for brunch is much better than Dog Fart Waffles.
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Alright. Where is this rumble going down? Can't be IHOP or Waffle House. Has to be neutral territory. Wok and Roll? Pizza Hut? Wherever it goes down waffles bout to whoop dat azz!
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