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Rand isn't an isolationist in any sense. On the other hand, someone like Fiorina who claims she won't speak to Putin seems pretty isolationist to me.

Fiorina ? Who the **** said anything about her? Rand has his head in the proverbial sand when it comes to goat humpers in the Middle East, bottom line is he's not electable and all the Paul supporters need to get over it.
 
Rand isn't an isolationist in any sense. On the other hand, someone like Fiorina who claims she won't speak to Putin seems pretty isolationist to me.

Or Trump who wants 45% tariffs and a ****ing wall. That sounds pretty isolationist to me.

At some point the GOP decided that if you're not a war mongering neocon, the other option is that you're a no good dirty isolationist!
 
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Fiorina ? Who the **** said anything about her? Rand has his head in the proverbial sand when it comes to goat humpers in the Middle East, bottom line is he's not electable and all the Paul supporters need to get over it.

Where's he wrong about the Middle East?
 
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meh... I thought he was a little quieter than normal in the last one.

He spent the last 2 debates trying the shot the kneecaps off of Rubio and Cruz. And his groupies are so annoying. But hey the good news maybe that Trump may not show up. Fox News is calling his bluff.
 
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Or Trump who wants 45% tariffs. That sounds pretty isolationist to me.

At some point the GOP deciding that if you're not a war mongering neocon, the other option is that you're a no good dirty isolationist!

That's a starting point for negotiations genius, you prefer a $500 billion trade deficit every ****ing year with China? People of this country are getting tired of getting ****ed up the ass, so maybe it's time to renegotiate.
 
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He spent the last 2 debates trying the shot the kneecaps off of Rubio and Cruz. And his groupies are so annoying. But hey the good news maybe that Trump may not show up. Fox News is calling his bluff.

It's called building the audience, are you that naïve?
 
That's a starting point for negotiations genius, you prefer a $500 billion trade deficit every ****ing year with China? People of this country are getting tired of getting ****ed up the ass, so maybe it's time to renegotiate.

lol he literally doesn't even know what trade agreements China is a part of.
 
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He spent the last 2 debates trying the shot the kneecaps off of Rubio and Cruz. And his groupies are so annoying. But hey the good news maybe that Trump may not show up. Fox News is calling his bluff.

I missed the last part. What's going on with trump?
 
I missed the last part. What's going on with trump?
Trump is still pissed about Megyn Kelly being a debate mod so he told Fox they don't remove her he won't be at the debate. Fox said she is staying. Trump then went on a twitter rant about Kelly and the Fox released this statement.
We learned from a secret back channel that the Ayatollah and Putin both intend to treat Donald Trump unfairly when they meet with him if he becomes president — a nefarious source tells us that Trump has his own secret plan to replace the Cabinet with his Twitter followers to see if he should even go to those meetings

Then Bret Bier asked him point blank on live tv if he was showing up or not and Trump said " we will see."
 
I like Paul. I really do. But there is no way he wins the election.

And my reasoning is not the same as the rest of these guys.

My reasoning is because he's too smart for the GOP. They prefer the guy who goes on a rant about winning and China, when asked a question about a trade deal that doesn't involve China.
 
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He's not going anywhere, there should only be 4 candidates on that stage, he's not resonating and I happen to live in the real world. He's an isolationist and that's the last thing the people want. I admire him for sticking to his principles but he's just not electable..

^ Doesn't know what isolationist means.
 
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lol he literally doesn't even know what trade agreements China is a part of.

And he still doesn't know how a tariff works after giving this interview saying,

"when it comes prohibitively expensive, our companies are going to make them in Iowa, North Carolina, South Carolina and New Hampshire."
 
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He spent the last 2 debates trying the shot the kneecaps off of Rubio and Cruz. And his groupies are so annoying. But hey the good news maybe that Trump may not show up. Fox News is calling his bluff.

Rand didn't even participate in the last debate. Hence the reason for my comment.

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And he still doesn't know how a tariff works after giving this interview saying,

"when it comes prohibitively expensive, our companies are going to make them in Iowa, North Carolina, South Carolina and New Hampshire."

He's recently divorced, maybe you two could hook up and swap anti Trump propaganda.😂😂😂
 
Well, that 100% happened. And that's who they do prefer according to every poll that I'm aware of.

What's your reasoning?

They can't control Rand. (TPTB) He will destroy and expose their little games. They can't have that. They want folks (R or D) that they can control. Both parties are the same imo.
 
They can't control Rand. (TPTB) He will destroy and expose their little games. They can't have that. They want folks (R or D) that they can control. Both parties are the same imo.

I'm interested then on your take on trump and how he fits into the picture regarding his ability to be controlled?
 
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