2016 Election

[Grand Vol]

Sadly, post divorce it's non existent.

Donald Trump's been divorced how many times? Twice now I think?

Yet he's still worth a billion dollars? Are you not seeing the serious flaws in your arguments here about how he built up his bank account?

 

[Obsessed]

Sadly, post divorce it's non existent.

Damn. Yours was quick.

 

[hog88]

I don't disagree. I think working for yourself is the true American Dream, but let's not champion someone who simply took their fathers wealth and beat inflation.

Why, the majority doesn't. What he has done is an achievement. Hell just look at the % of small businesses that fold shortly after passing to the next generation.

 

[hog88]

The point remains the same, his money would have made more elsewhere because it would have been more useful elsewhere, meaning his impact on the economy would have been bigger if he had sipped Mai Tais in the West Indies his whole life.

No.

 

[Obsessed]

Why, the majority doesn't. What he has done is an achievement. Hell just look at the % of small businesses that fold shortly after passing to the next generation.

Most don't make it 3 years. 7 years seems to be the magic number. (Odds of success)

 

[Vol8188]

Donald Trump's been divorced how many times? Twice now I think?

Yet he's still worth a billion dollars? Are you not seeing the serious flaws in your arguments here about how he built up his bank account?

Lol my father didn't hand me a multimillion dollar business when I graduated college.

 

[Vol8188]

Why, the majority doesn't. What he has done is an achievement. Hell just look at the % of small businesses that fold shortly after passing to the next generation.

Small business? You believe his father handed him a small business?

 

[Vol8188]

Damn. Yours was quick.

Thankfully. But I had to pay her half the equity on the farm and house. So most of my savings was wiped out, but o well. I'm young, I have time to get it back.

 

[n_huffhines]

No.

I can explain why I'm right. Can you explain why you're right?

 

[hog88]

Small business? You believe his father handed him a small business?

Now your just being obstinate.

 

[lawgator1]

Not picking on you, because everyone does it, but ML was a victim of sexual harassment...she was preyed upon by the most powerful man in the world...why is it OK to make fun of her?

This is a flatly ridiculous statement. Sexual harassment is unwanted. Sure, his authority and position of power was attractive to her, but if that is the test for a legitimate relationship, then half the men in this country are sexually harassing their wives.

There is sometimes a fine line between manipulation which we are prepared to recognize as immoral or unethical because it takes advantage of an imbalance of power, versus simply lust.

The Clinton-ML things was really, really, really short of that line.

I do not expect Republicans to ever give it up. And they of course want to exaggerate it whenever they can, to try to wash away the stigma to their party and the embarrassment of Nixon.

Lame.

 

[Obsessed]

Thankfully. But I had to pay her half the equity on the farm and house. So most of my savings was wiped out, but o well. I'm young, I have time to get it back.

At least you got the farm. Find you a nice country girl with money!

 

[Vol8188]

Now your just being obstinate.

Not at all. I'm simply saying the failure rate of small businesses isn't relevant to the topic. He wasn't handed a small business. He had a multimillion dollar business handed to him in 1971.

 

[Obsessed]

This is a flatly ridiculous statement. Sexual harassment is unwanted. Sure, his authority and position of power was attractive to her, but if that is the test for a legitimate relationship, then half the men in this country are sexually harassing their wives.

There is sometimes a fine line between manipulation which we are prepared to recognize as immoral or unethical because it takes advantage of an imbalance of power, versus simply lust.

The Clinton-ML things was really, really, really short of that line.

I do not expect Republicans to ever give it up. And they of course want to exaggerate it whenever they can, to try to wash away the stigma to their party and the embarrassment of Nixon.

Lame.

Did my pic offend you LG?

 

[Grand Vol]

The point remains the same, his money would have made more elsewhere because it would have been more useful elsewhere, meaning his impact on the economy would have been bigger if he had sipped Mai Tais in the West Indies his whole life.

I wouldn't go that far. Real estate blankets a pretty wide reaching portion of the market. Starting from the designs to the construction to the upkeep and the fees from renters, I'd say the money sent back out is pretty dang serious.

Look, we can debate about how he could have been much richer had he invested in other parts of the market instead of dealing in real estate. But facing facts here, he did create a lot of jobs and kept a lot of people employed over the long run. And really, that's more than any other candidate can say except maybe Carli Fiorina. And even now most will say what she did was right when she did it and saved HP.

 

[hog88]

I can explain why I'm right. Can you explain why you're right?

Much of that return would have went into the pockets of the fund managers. Not to mention he nor anyone else can ensure that their money would have went to job creation investments. Look at Bain Capitol and what Romney took so much heat for, some of his money could have went to those type of investments.

Sure Trump might have made a bigger personal return and purchased more yachts, planes and houses but he still wouldn't have created more jobs.

 

[hog88]

Not at all. I'm simply saying the failure rate of small businesses isn't relevant to the topic. He wasn't handed a small business. He had a multimillion dollar business handed to him in 1971.

And has done very well with it. That is an achievement.

 

[FLVOL69]

This is a flatly ridiculous statement. Sexual harassment is unwanted. Sure, his authority and position of power was attractive to her, but if that is the test for a legitimate relationship, then half the men in this country are sexually harassing their wives.

There is sometimes a fine line between manipulation which we are prepared to recognize as immoral or unethical because it takes advantage of an imbalance of power, versus simply lust.

The Clinton-ML things was really, really, really short of that line.

I do not expect Republicans to ever give it up. And they of course want to exaggerate it whenever they can, to try to wash away the stigma to their party and the embarrassment of Nixon.

Lame.

*

 

[Grand Vol]

This is a flatly ridiculous statement. Sexual harassment is unwanted. Sure, his authority and position of power was attractive to her, but if that is the test for a legitimate relationship, then half the men in this country are sexually harassing their wives.

There is sometimes a fine line between manipulation which we are prepared to recognize as immoral or unethical because it takes advantage of an imbalance of power, versus simply lust.

The Clinton-ML things was really, really, really short of that line.

I do not expect Republicans to ever give it up. And they of course want to exaggerate it whenever they can, to try to wash away the stigma to their party and the embarrassment of Nixon.

Lame.

What's really lame is you trying to continue tying the modern day GOP to actions that happened 40 years ago.

Do you honestly think anyone is still alive that cares about that?

 

[lawgator1]

Did my pic offend you LG?

I missed it, I think. If it was the one with the birthday thing, of course not.

 

[Gramps]

This discussion of Trumps success may be the stupidest argument ever on VN . The truth be know, he probably has made more money than every regular poster of the politics forum has combined.

The man is a great success, period.

 

[n_huffhines]

I wouldn't go that far. Real estate blankets a pretty wide reaching portion of the market. Starting from the designs to the construction to the upkeep and the fees from renters, I'd say the money sent back out is pretty dang serious.

Look, we can debate about how he could have been much richer had he invested in other parts of the market instead of dealing in real estate. But facing facts here, he did create a lot of jobs and kept a lot of people employed over the long run. And really, that's more than any other candidate can say except maybe Carli Fiorina. And even now most will say what she did was right when she did it and saved HP.

His money would have created more wealth/jobs elsewhere. That's why someone is willing to pay him a higher return if he invested. He makes less than the fund does with his money. They make more than the fund does with his money. How do they do this? By buying real estate, manufacturing things, inventing new pharmaceuticals, etc.

 

[Vol8188]

Much of that return would have went into the pockets of the fund managers. Not to mention he nor anyone else can ensure that their money would have went to job creation investments. Look at Bain Capitol and what Romney took so much heat for, some of his money could have went to those type of investments.

Sure Trump might have made a bigger personal return and purchased more yachts, planes and houses but he still wouldn't have created more jobs.

Are you saying that when wealthy fund managers make extra money it doesn't trickle down to everyone else?

 

[Grand Vol]

Not at all. I'm simply saying the failure rate of small businesses isn't relevant to the topic. He wasn't handed a small business. He had a multimillion dollar business handed to him in 1971.

How many multi million dollar businesses have gone out of business since 1971?

I see the point you are trying to make, but you are also making that point without having any context or facts.

 

[Vol8188]

This discussion of Trumps success may be the stupidest argument ever on VN . The truth be know, he probably has made more money than every regular poster of the politics forum has combined.

The man is a great success, period.

If nothing else, he inherited more than any of us.