'16 AZ DE Jonathan Kongbo UT Signee 2/3/16

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Ulysees E. McGill said:
We already have a deep rotation. Injury to Philips and Taylor redshirting is causing you guys to forget what we signed last year. We are already going to be 3 deep at DE. Who gets pushed out to get Kongbo snaps? Barnett, Vereen, Philips, Taylor, Smith and Mixon.
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One or two of those guys get hurt and miss a game or games and Kongbo would be looking pretty nice...
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
It doesn't hurt anyone except the kid sitting on the bench waiting his turn. Just have to hope you get to play before your time in the program is over.
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So frustrating dealing with this nonsense from you and others....

Elite players play, period. If they are not yet elite, they develop. If they don't develop to elite, they contribute. If they don't contribute, it's not likely they would at another elite program anyways.

Even great players have to wait their turn sometimes. If they're smart, they do just that. Reggie Ragland started only one year (although he was 2nd on the team in tackles in 2014) and will be a first round draft pick. He was also named SEC Defensive Player of the Year this year. How'd not starting early in his career work out for him? I could use the Heisman trophy winner on the other side of the ball as an example in the same manner. Or I could use our own Travis Henry back when our program was competing for championships.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
We already have a deep rotation. Injury to Philips and Taylor redshirting is causing you guys to forget what we signed last year. We are already going to be 3 deep at DE. Who gets pushed out to get Kongbo snaps? Barnett, Vereen, Philips, Taylor, Smith and Mixon.
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I'd worry more about what other position suffers by over stocking at say DE. I think fans get caught up with stars too much. They would rather take a class with more stars than positions of need. Say we need a WR, a CB, a DE, and a LB. There are 3DEs who are 4 stars and all the other position guys are 3 stars. Some fans would say take all 3DEs, and the LB. What about CB, and WR? Who cares, look at those stars!
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
We already have a deep rotation. Injury to Philips and Taylor redshirting is causing you guys to forget what we signed last year. We are already going to be 3 deep at DE. Who gets pushed out to get Kongbo snaps? Barnett, Vereen, Philips, Taylor, Smith and Mixon.
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I'll tell you who gets pushed out in the rotation (or back): Whoever is the lesser of the group....as it should be. I hope we have that problem. We need elite lineman on both sides of the ball EVERY YEAR!
 
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I get going after a HS player like Simmons. That makes sense..bring them, in and redshirt them. Best case..Kongbo comes in, takes Vereens spot, and the young guys leap frog him too...but I don't see that happening. Vereen hit his stride, and was getting after it. There was a little lull between KM going down and then. Just looks like a headache of a logjam to me.
 
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C-town Vol said:
You missed the point...
DLine rotation...that means a lot of kids getting snaps
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I've heard it all before. We have to take Kelly. We have to take Bussey too! We need these guys. They will play a lot as FR! Butch will spread the carries. Like some said, no they won't. Hurd and Kamara was always getting all the carries. What happened? Hurd and Kamara got the carries.
 
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junder13 said:
You can keep talking about talent all you want. I choose to speak in terms of production -- the only thing that really matters at the end of the end of a season when you look back on accomplishments and failures. Sure, there's plenty of talent at the DE spot (and young talent at that). I have little doubt that Taylor and Phillips will be great for us and will end up in the NFL. It's doesn't change the reality we face today: (1) injuries happen -- thus depth can make or break a team's season -- and (2) the pass rush was almost non-existent after Maggit's injury up until perhaps the Georgia game. Taking the whole season into account, we had a combined 16.5 sacks from our DE spot that you labeled "elite". That is not elite. Nowhere near elite. Barely average. Might we have "elite" production from the DE spot next year? Sure. But you can't assume we will based on what we saw in 2015. Barnett is elite. But he's also likely to leave early for the draft. So why should UT not try really, really hard to sign an elite DE talent in 2016? The obvious answer is they should. Not surprisingly, they are aiming to do just that, having made fat pitches to Kongbo, Simmons, and Clayton (as well as others that didn't take) -- all three of which are elite caliber DEs. We should strive for elite talent at every position, every year, irrespective of who is on our roster. That's how you build a sustainable championship-caliber team. No coach at UT should last if that is not the intention, as we are a championship-caliber program, and always should be. I just wish we had fans who demanded that (as I see with Bama football fans, Kentucky basketball fans, etc.).
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sjt? is that you?
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
And to you ziti..I don't give a flip about crappabama. There are players on the team that I don't want to piss off just to get Kongbo. Is he really worth that?
And yes, I know that is hypothetical, but Philips was already upset. Why push it even more?
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So we don't need to take Kongbo (5* DE #1 juco player in the country) because our second string defensive end may get upset?
 
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BigZiti09 said:
So we don't need to take Kongbo (5* DE #1 juco player in the country) because our second string defensive end may get upset?
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^^^this and so much more...
If the coaches think Kongbo is a 1st, 2nd, 3rd round NFL pick at DE...you take that guy all day everyday and let numbers work out in some way
 
#1,711
#1,711
If Butch takes Kongbo, I have no problem with it. What I an saying is if I'm Kongbo, I'm not coming to UT with their DE depth. Fans always want elite depth 5-6 deep everywhere. Fact is its just not in the recruits best interest. Especially if you're a Juco signee.
 
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I am very dyslexic. I actually do that all the time. Most of the time I catch it before I post. It's why it takes me so long to post..lol.
 
#1,717
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If I wasn't having to go to Florida week after next for my daughters graduation, I was going to get the new Galaxy. Oh well..maybe next month they will have a another good deal.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
If I wasn't having to go to Florida week after next for my daughters graduation, I was going to get the new Galaxy. Oh well..maybe next month they will have a another good deal.
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Just buy or take some phased out smartphone that isn't connected to a network and use the wifi for Internet at your house.

I have like two old iPhones you could have simply for web browsing in wifi zones.
 
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Thanks engineer, but I don't have internet yet. It took me 5 months to find gainful employment in this economic wasteland if eastern Kentucky. We had to cut our expense to the bone. Hopefully I plan to get my internet turned on next month, then I'll just go back to using my laptop or Kindle.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Thanks engineer, but I don't have internet yet. It took me 5 months to find gainful employment in this economic wasteland if eastern Kentucky. We had to cut our expense to the bone. Hopefully I plan to get my internet turned on next month, then I'll just go back to using my laptop or Kindle.
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Sorry to hear that, bro. I apologize for the tone of my earlier responses. Good luck to you with the new job and God bless.
 
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I apologize also junger..my worst fault is my temper. Me and ol St Pete have a lot in common. If the Lord could beat it out of him, he can beat it out of me too. God bless.
 
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