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head1 said:
Kamara has a tough decision. His stock will not climb much at all next year unless he steals a lot of carries from Hurd which is unlikely or Hurd gets hurt.

He said himself he has to decide if he should go now or wait another year and end up with the same grade.

I think he goes but thats just me. I really dont see how he can improve his position anymore because Hurd is going to get the bulk of the carries again because you know they will try and get him the all time rushing record.
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NFL talent evaluators are not grading prospects based on number of carries. If anything, a lower number of carries is a positive at RB; means less wear and tear.

Kamara has more to gain than almost anyone else by staying another year. Also important to note that Kamara will likely be evaluated by NFL teams as much for his explosiveness after catching the ball as he will for rushing.
 
#5,253
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head1 said:
Kamara has a tough decision. His stock will not climb much at all next year unless he steals a lot of carries from Hurd which is unlikely or Hurd gets hurt.

He said himself he has to decide if he should go now or wait another year and end up with the same grade.

I think he goes but thats just me. I really dont see how he can improve his position anymore because Hurd is going to get the bulk of the carries again because you know they will try and get him the all time rushing record.
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I am not sure that this is the case. All it takes is for Hurd to get hurt for 3-4 weeks to get more opportunities. I also think the staff figured out how to best use Kamara after the first few games. They know how to use him out of the gate next year. He rushed well against BG, but we ran alot. His receptions spiked after game 3. But, that is just the other argument for him to come back.
 
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AV_12 said:
Think he will get about a 4th-5th round grade... And he will go
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The point I was trying to make is that isn't a grade they give from what I understand


3rd round and higher is the worst grade possible which makes very little sense to me
 
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BruinVol said:
The point I was trying to make is that isn't a grade they give from what I understand


3rd round and higher is the worst grade possible which makes very little sense to me
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Correct. They stopped giving complete round grades when league changed advisory format. Now it's top 3 rounds or return to school. Believe the put a cap on number of players allowed to seek feedback per team also.
 
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If he gets a 3rd round plus grade, I'd argue he should come back from an exposure perspective. Unless things fall apart, we should be making a serious run in the SEC and potentially the playoffs. If he gets that kind of exposure and performs, it can help his stock.
 
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BruinVol said:
The point I was trying to make is that isn't a grade they give from what I understand


3rd round and higher is the worst grade possible which makes very little sense to me
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Didn't know that. I think that's where he would land though. I figured they would project beyond the 5th.
 
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Dust10 said:
If he gets a 3rd round plus grade, I'd argue he should come back from an exposure perspective. Unless things fall apart, we should be making a serious run in the SEC and potentially the playoffs. If he gets that kind of exposure and performs, it can help his stock.
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Barring Hurd getting injured, there really isn't much he can do to improve his stock getting 5-7 touches again next year
 
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Dust10 said:
If he gets a 3rd round plus grade, I'd argue he should come back from an exposure perspective. Unless things fall apart, we should be making a serious run in the SEC and potentially the playoffs. If he gets that kind of exposure and performs, it can help his stock.
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Given the recent trend of RBs drafted in later rounds, I would say that if Kamara got a 3rd round grade, he should heavily consider declaring. It's unlikely that he would improve on that much. Maybe sneak into 2nd round next year? I don't know the money difference but it can't be huge.

Even D. Henry is being projected by some to be a 2nd rounder after the season he's had. RBs just aren't the highly coveted players they once were - unless they're the rare talent such as AP or Gurley or maybe Fournette.
 
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I don't ever blame guys with talent for leaving early if they believe they have a good shot at being drafted. If Kamara leaves I would be pulling for him. Have enjoyed watching him play. He's quite a talent that is on the cusp of seriously breaking out at the college level.
 
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Putting Kamara in the league after a single season would be good recruiting fodder for Butch and Gillespie. Especially a guy who was the #2 back for the entire year.
 
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WildTurkey said:
Given the recent trend of RBs drafted in later rounds, I would say that if Kamara got a 3rd round grade, he should heavily consider declaring. It's unlikely that he would improve on that much. Maybe sneak into 2nd round next year? I don't know the money difference but it can't be huge.

Even D. Henry is being projected by some to be a 2nd rounder after the season he's had. RBs just aren't the highly coveted players they once were - unless they're the rare talent such as AP or Gurley or maybe Fournette.
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It wouldn't be a 3rd round grade though, it would be 3rd or later. Seems like a weird system, but I guess the NFL feels the combine can jump or drop you up to 4 rounds or more.
 
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Any grading system where Kamara and myself would likely get the same grade is completely ignorant and defeats the purpose of the system anyway
 
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Dust10 said:
It wouldn't be a 3rd round grade though, it would be 3rd or later. Seems like a weird system, but I guess the NFL feels the combine can jump or drop you up to 4 rounds or more.
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Ok well I guess I misunderstood that. If it's not a true 3rd round grade, and instead only a 3-7 grade, then that makes it much more questionable. Thanks for clarifying.
 
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WildTurkey said:
Ok well I guess I misunderstood that. If it's not a true 3rd round grade, and instead only a 3-7 grade, then that makes it much more questionable. Thanks for clarifying.
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From what I understand, it's 3 through never set foot on an NFL field. Maybe they are trying to discourage early entrants except for the best? I dunno.
 
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AV_12 said:
On the sideline most of the game is gonna do what?
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Other running back duos that improved their draft stock because they played on great teams:

Reggie Bush/Lendale White
Cadillac Williams/Ronnie Brown
Darren McFadden/Felix Jones/Peyton Hillis


That's just the RB position. Every year look at how many guys get drafted from great teams. Playing on a great team can improve your draft stock. Would be ignorant to deny that.
 
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Vols4us said:
IMO, since his first season Croom should have been a pass catching TE working from inside and the slot. His body was going to mature and he would eat his way out of being a WR. IIRC that was the plan even Dools had during/after his first season. He can do some damage inside with that body and WR skills if his mind is right and he works at it. But he has not proven to be durable enough to be an every down player.

A former Vol example would be David Martin. He was a back-up WR at UT. He struggled with injuries as well. He went to the NFL and got converted to TE. He had a nice career with a decade in the pros as a pass catching TE. He was good at what he did for Miami and GB.

Wolf is the man at TE. They are looking for who will be primarily the blocking TE - the Ellis replacement. Probably will come from Creamer or Johnson. Over time it is clear that Pope and/or Brooks will emerge as Wolf's replacement. Like both of them.
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Whoever it is, please let them be able to catch a pass. They will get targeted as much as Wolf if the past is any indicator.
 
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I don't even think Kamara will get top 3 round grade right now. He's played one season of college football and was used lightly.

I think AK has a huge NFL future because he can catch the ball out of the backfield as well as any RB in the country. He reminds me of Darren Sproles.

Can he pass protect? He wasn't asked to do it very much.
 
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