Game Thread Lady Vols at Stanford

55 points- pitiful


in the last quarter--more than double the points we scored in any other quarter. I think we had 9, 10 and 11 points in each of the other three quarters--so we could have been looking at another 40-45 point EXPLOSION had we not scored in the fourth quarter. But it's not so hard to score in the last quarter when the game has already been decided and both teams know it. Actually, we had a chance to cut it to five points or so with about 4 minutes remaining--but our defense in the 4thQ was terrible.
 
Our offense sux because we want to throw the ball inside to Russell or Graves, thinking they will score--when the fact is neither one of them is a natural scorer! Does Warlick get that? Apparently not. Who does Warlick think they are? Plus, we seem to run nothing off of our bigs when they do get the ball--the guards just stand around watching them. I think this offense confuses our guards, who, like our bigs, are NOT natural scorers. We have one natural scorer on the team--DeShields--and even she hasn't been great. This is why you need a SYSTEM that has everyone moving without the ball, picks, good passing. Warlick seemingly runs an NBA offense predicated on players getting the ball and just individually finding a way to score--and it doesn't work.
 
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in the last quarter--more than double the points we scored in any other quarter. I think we had 9, 10 and 11 points in each of the other three quarters--so we could have been looking at another 40-45 point EXPLOSION had we not scored in the fourth quarter. But it's not so hard to score in the last quarter when the game has already been decided and both teams know it. Actually, we had a chance to cut it to five points or so with about 4 minutes remaining--but our defense in the 4thQ was terrible.

By the time the LV started scoring points in the 4th quarter, Stanford was on cruise control. Holly couldn't coach a kid's Y team. Dave Hart needs to fire her on the plane ride home. But that won't happen, and Holly will get fired ONLY after she has run the proud program into the ground and we'll have a hard time getting a quality coach. Fire her NOW, and there's still hope.
 
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The whole game was a mess. Besides the things mentioned above, we were outrebounded by a hefty margin...apparently the concept of boxing-out is lost on us. Our TO's were down to 14, but of course with only 9 assists, our A/TO ratio is still well under 1.00. The only bright spot was Nared. I'm hoping Middleton returns with the same kind of flourish. I'm also hoping the whole team gets in some shooting practice on this road trip. We shot 32% tonight and 21% behind the arc.
 
If Dave Hart would fire Holly before SEC play starts and hires Elzy as interim head coach he will have done two things right. 1. Honored Pat's wishes and 2. stopped the toilet bowl swirl our storied "Lady Vols" are in. And then cough up a million or more for a coach we deserve.
Unless of course, Elzy starts winning.
 
You can't hire Elzy--she has no head coaching experience herself. You want to repeat this debacle? She also doesn't know how to coach an offense, which we desperately need. She was a defensive player at UT--much like Warlick. I mean, she could be interim coach, but that's not going to happen.
 
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Nared is going to help simply because she can play. She has the potential to be much better than Jones....and Graves, too. She was our only bright spot tonight. Reynolds should not play anymore and Cooper's minutes should be reduced; they are hurting us on both ends of the floor--weak to mediocre defense and no scoring. Carter hasn't been very good either--but she at least works hard out there. Did we press early in the game? When we were pressing and ratcheting up the tempo in the 4th quarter our offense improved but the defense deteriorated. We can't seem to get anything right.
 
The Stanford football team really ragged on Diamond the first half. Did the TV announcers comment on Diamond's gesture to them after hitting a shot?
 
The team clearly wasn't ready to play from the get-go tonight, so one has to look at the coaching. I felt the game was lost in the first 2 or 3 minutes when the Lady Vols looked like they just had no idea how to approach what they were seeing on the court. Even towards the end of the game at the 4.something minute mark when they were down by 7 - I think - they showed no urgency and let the shot clock run down and threw up a desperation shot at the shot clock buzzer. Even after that, the clock was ticking and they were still just slogging along with no sense of urgency. That's all on the coaches. Meanwhile, it seemed like any time Stanford felt they needed a little breathing room they just dribbled down and grabbed an easy layup for 2. Their FG percentage was 50% for the game, 24-48.

I know they came back towards the end, but I'm a Cowboys fan so I've learned to pretty much disregard garbage-time points. I'm really not seeing what they have to lose by making a coaching change right now. Can't hurt, might help.
 
You can't hire Elzy--she has no head coaching experience herself. You want to repeat this debacle? She also doesn't know how to coach an offense, which we desperately need. She was a defensive player at UT--much like Warlick. I mean, she could be interim coach, but that's not going to happen.

I think that is the suggestion. A coaching change would be a move to stop the bleeding and hopefully turn the team orientation in a positive direction.

For a mid-season switch, unless some longer term plan had been afoot, you have to look at available interim options.

That would be Kyra and then who knows, she might surprise everyone with what she brings to the party.
 
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I think that is the suggestion. A coaching change would be a move to stop the pleading and hopefully change the team orientation in a positive direction.

For a mid-season switch, unless some longer term plan had been afoot, you have to look at available interim options.

That would be Kyra and then who knows, she might surprise everyone with what she brings to the party.

Thank you for explaining that to Armchair for me.:good!:
 
We were never in this game because you can't shoot 27 percent in the first half and 31 for the game and expect to win. It has affected the defense we made this game to easy for Stanford.
 
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Some observations about the game:

This is the worst Stanford team I have ever seen. They have very little talent, but the coach gets a lot out of what she has by getting them to buy into her system. They had a game plan coming in and they stuck to it. If Stanford hadn't missed 11 free throws, the final score would have been really ugly.

Tennessee played the same way they have played every game this season. ESPN's word is "uninspired." Defensively, I thought the team was flat. Good teams play defense with their feet. The ladies played defense with their hands last night (probably because their feet were too slow) and got called for it. A couple of those fouls looked like body slams from a hockey game.

Offensively, there was a lot of standing around. 9 assists, 14 turnovers. I think Holly has decided this is Diamond and Cooper's team. Or maybe those two made the decision themselves. Diamond and Cooper took 43% of the team's shots and shot 30%. The rest of the team shot 33%. Why do two of the worst shooters on the team jack up so many shots? Maybe they got guarantees written into their contracts. The body language evident on TV was very negative. There are a lot of players on this team that look like they want to be somewhere else.

Playing on national TV is not going to help recruiting. There were more critical comments (from the commentators) about the state of the team and the coaching. This morning ESPN had another article with more bad press:

Stanford's balanced attack overwhelms uninspired Lady Volunteers

The one saving grace is that the early schedule has been so weak. I can only imagine what the outcome would be against Notre Dame, UConn, or Baylor.
 
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You can't hire Elzy--she has no head coaching experience herself. You want to repeat this debacle? She also doesn't know how to coach an offense, which we desperately need. She was a defensive player at UT--much like Warlick. I mean, she could be interim coach, but that's not going to happen.

Holly didn't play defense before she arrived at UT in 1976. In high school she played 6 on 6... on the offensive end.
 
I can't believe Holly said this team still has a chance to make the Final Four. I'm convinced she's the most clueless, stubborn coach in women's college basketball today. She can't get this team to play "inspired" (in fact, only Nared looked like she wanted to be there last night), so how does she expect a Final Four.

It's insane to think our program has become a national joke. I feel prospective recruits know something we are sadly discovering now: Holly's a disaster!
 
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Sadly it can seeing happening this season for sure.

Likely will be out of Top 25 this week......and they should be.Right now this team is not a Top 50 team.There is definitely something wrong in the locker room.The players have enough talent to overcome bad or no coaching.Players are rebelling on the court and that is obvious.
 
I feel really bad for Pat having to watch this imposter of a coach drag down the great program she built.

Yet she hand-picked HW to follow her as head coach. After 30 plus years as an assistant, PS had to know she was lacking coaching skills.
 
After watching last night's performance,it is clear from my vantage point that Holly has lost this team. Starting with what Holly stresses,defense,the LVs had five players on defense that could not guard a fence post. Compounding that,once again the LVs thought that bouncing the ball on the floor was a winning ploy. Like many other posters,I was astonished that,in the middle of a run,substitutions would be made. Also clear to me was that Russell is still having foot problems. She no longer moves as well as she did in earlier games and is now running flat footed down the floor,both signs that the feet are not right. She has no aggression and it could be that pain is taking a toll. She is probably playing too many minutes. Not one person on this team is committed to defensive excellence. There is little or no communication between players on either end. Reynolds is contributing nothing. Carter is not the answer at point because of excessive dribbling. Cooper too often goes into traffic,just as Massengale did in her first two or three years. However,last night she played more under control and several times was fouled (uncalled) on shot attempts. Nared was a bright spot,while Deshields and Graves had their moments both good and bad. In total,this is not a good team right now. The ABCs of a good team are Attitude,Ballplay,and Coaching. The Lady Vols are lacking in all three. And it is time to do something.
 
I was kinda sick while watching the team play. For about 4 minutes in the 4th quarter when we went on something like a 15-4 run, I thought "hey, here's the Tennessee team we've been waiting to see".

Then it all stopped. Listen to Holly's press conference - comments like "players need to step up". "Players need to play defense and get into their stance". "Players need to play offense" etc etc.

My question is (and I'm sure it's been asked), is if certain kids aren't defending, rotating on offense, whatever, why not bench them and play kids who are going to do it? And if that won't work (injuries, limited bench), why not teach that in practice?
 
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