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Rand made the main stage. It doesn't matter at this point, but it gives me the best reason to watch.


Why? He'll only be asked about his isolationist policies and he'll be mocked by the other candidates for it. Rubio will call it dangerous. Cruz will put that fake serious look on his face for dramatic pause. Trump will call him ridiculous. And Bush would say he has a four point plan and put everyone to sleep by the time he got to the second point.

Its entirely predictable.
 
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Why? He'll only be asked about his isolationist policies and he'll be mocked by the other candidates for it. Rubio will call it dangerous. Cruz will put that fake serious look on his face for dramatic pause. Trump will call him ridiculous. And Bush would say he has a four point plan and put everyone to sleep by the time he got to the second point.

Its entirely predictable.
How about the communist debates? Nothing predictable there at all. gtfo hack
 
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There is no reason for Rand Pail to be on the debate stage. He's under 2% in the polls and has no chance to win with the current national security situation.
 
There is no reason for Rand Pail to be on the debate stage. He's under 2% in the polls and has no chance to win with the current national security situation.

I acknowledge that they rounded his numbers up to include him and he has no chance of winning, but God forbid there's an actual fiscal conservative on the stage. There are quite a few redundant candidates as it is.
 
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Anyone who believes that Hillary Clinton, the most corrupt politician in America, would be a better president than Ted Cruz, deserves to get a sack full of Coal for Christmas.

There are far worse things than political corruption. Misguided, crusading do-gooders can result in unparalleled harm to the country.
 
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Disappointing, but maybe earns him some points around here

https://reason.com/blog/2015/12/14/rand-paul-cruz-rubio-anti-refugee

Disappointing that Rand is using old info in his ad:

Ted Cruz, Son of a Refugee, Tells Syrian Refugees to Go Home - The Daily Beast
Update 11/16/15 8:05 PM: Despite the fact that he is himself the son of a refugee who fled violence and turmoil, Sen. Ted Cruz went a step further Monday, as he pledged to introduce legislation banning Muslim Syrian refugees from entering the United States.
Cruz’s proposal comes in the wake of the Paris terror attacks last week and declarations from more than 20 state governors that they object to taking in Syrian refugees.

In early 2014, Cruz seemed to be singing a different tune: “We have welcomed refugees, the tired, huddled masses, for centuries—that’s been the history of the United States. We should continue to do so,” he said in a Fox segment about Syrian refugees. “We have to continue to be vigilant to make sure those coming are not affiliated with the terrorists. But we can do that.”

Or taken out of context:

Marco Rubio Is All Over The Place On Syrian Refugees | ThinkProgress

During an appearance on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace, Rubio said that it was “common sense” to allow young children, old women, and religious leaders into the United States.

“My argument is that we can’t allow anyone into this country that we can’t vet,” Rubio said. “And I believe that the vast majority of refugees that are trying to come here are people we will not be able to vet. Does common sense still apply? Of course it does. A 5-year-old orphan, a 90-year-old widow, a well-known Chaldean priest—these are obviously common-sense applications, and you can clearly vet them just by common sense.”

“But what about someone who doesn’t fit that profile?” Rubio continued, noting that he supported a recent House-approved bill that would require top government officials to certify that each refugee coming from Iraq and Syria weren’t security threats. “There is no reliable database we can rely on, there is no existing government institution in their home country that we can call up and run them against. We cannot vet most of these people.”
 
And entirely disappointing that your "outside the mainstream" candidate just used mainstream mud slinging techniques in his campaign.
 
Yeah, taking this stance does absolutely nothing for Rand. It's a perfect microcosm of his campaign - tried to play two sides and ended up alienating the lion's share of both.
 
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And entirely disappointing that your "outside the mainstream" candidate just used mainstream mud slinging techniques in his campaign.

So because he's not philosophically mainstream he can't campaign like mainstreamers do? Makes no sense.
 
The ad clearly states it is old and his point is he hasn't flip flopped like Cruz.

It seems the Rubio stuff is out of context.

This is what I hate about the election seasons. One can't change their mind about something over time or as they become more educated or even with current events. Instead they "flip flop" on the issue as if they can't make up their mind.

Not directed at you Huff, just a bad subject with me.
 
So because he's not philosophically mainstream he can't campaign like mainstreamers do? Makes no sense.

He didn't do it when running for the Senate that I recall. He put his facts out there and let the voters decide.

Rand is someone I always considered above such tactics.
 
Why? He'll only be asked about his isolationist policies and he'll be mocked by the other candidates for it. Rubio will call it dangerous. Cruz will put that fake serious look on his face for dramatic pause. Trump will call him ridiculous. And Bush would say he has a four point plan and put everyone to sleep by the time he got to the second point.

Its entirely predictable.

Why what? Why I have a personal preference to want to watch a debate that includes a certain candidate?

I don't care about any of those others you mentioned or their predictable trends. That was the entire point of my post, your honor.
 
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I am only watching the debate because it includes Rand Paul, in spite of his minimal odds to win, because he is different.

It's fairly simple.
 
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I am only watching the debate because it includes Rand Paul, in spite of his minimal odds to win, because he is different.

It's fairly simple.


That's like watching the Super Bowl because you like the downfield blocking technique of one third stringer and maybe he'll play a down.
 
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Why is CNN holding so many Republican debates? I know the ratings are high but why give them airtime when they are a Democratic mouthpiece? Seems like Fox would be doing one every week?
 
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A bit of an outlier, but his national average is about 30-33% even after the Muslim proposal.

He's down or even with Cruz in Iowa.

So he's polling higher than normal?

Sorry. These are things I don't normally bother with. I vote based on who I like. Never cared for the numbers. But this "Trump" stuff has me intrigued.
 
That's like watching the Super Bowl because you like the downfield blocking technique of one third stringer and maybe he'll play a down.

I apologize LG. Let me go rush to support only whomever is the party front runner, just so I can feel great about rooting for the "Super Bowl Winner"...like everyone else.

No logic. Just look at the polls, or Twitter, or Fox News, find only the Republican front runner, and defend them until the end. Every post. Every day.
 
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