'16 GA DB Nigel Warrior (UT commit 2/3/16)

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The Breakerboy said:
I'm saying a kid could be an All-American but Butch won't start him. Not TKjr but in general at any position. They love seniority for some reason.
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We start plenty of the young guys...just less than half the starting 22.

Starters on Offense that are SO or younger
Malone
Robertson
Thomas
Hall
Wolf
Hurd

Starters on Defense that are SO or younger
Barnett
Smith
Kirkland
Martin
 
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UTChicagoV said:
We start plenty of the young guys...just less than half the starting 22.

Starters on Offense that are SO or younger
Malone
Robertson
Thomas
Hall
Wolf
Hurd

Starters on Defense that are SO or younger
Barnett
Smith
Kirkland
Martin
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Kirkland and Martin should've been starting sooner than later. It doesn't take rocket science to insert the young player when both are even. Let the talent grow into the role is how I like to see it.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Kirkland and Martin should've been starting sooner than later. It doesn't take rocket science to insert the young player when both are even. Let the talent grow into the role is how I like to see it.
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This, this and more this. Especially on D. Wish Butch saw it that way.
 
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engineerVOL said:
Every time I see your avatar I picture the silhouette of Beavis wearing a coon skin cap and looking toward the right.

Accurate depiction of Bammers.
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:lolabove: Never watched the show, but it for sure looks like a face. And like it or not, that is a fairly accurate depiction of many bammers.
 
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KPT_VFL said:
Martin was slowed by injury or probably would have started sooner. Kirkland should have started day 1
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Kirkland SHOULD NOT have started day one. He didn't know the defense. He couldn't have gotten the guys lined up properly. He was getting burned by Powell in the UF game. Regardless of what we think, he was not ready.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Kirkland SHOULD NOT have started day one. He didn't know the defense. He couldn't have gotten the guys lined up properly. He was getting burned by Powell in the UF game. Regardless of what we think, he was not ready.
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I guess you didn't see the gaping holes Jumper was leaving in the first quarter of the UF game?
 
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BleedingButch said:
I guess you didn't see the gaping holes Jumper was leaving in the first quarter of the UF game?
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I saw that but everyone else was lined up right. Jumper was just out of position, and slow to react, and couldn't fight through blocks. It amazes me that message board posters know more than the coaches.
 
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BleedingButch said:
I guess you didn't see the gaping holes Jumper was leaving in the first quarter of the UF game?
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Better to have one person out of position than the whole defense lined up to the strength wrong.

Good football teams with good coaches don't have either of those, though.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Kirkland SHOULD NOT have started day one. He didn't know the defense. He couldn't have gotten the guys lined up properly. He was getting burned by Powell in the UF game. Regardless of what we think, he was not ready.
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Idk he looked pretty good on that play where he recovered a fumble for a touchdown that was botched by the officials in the first game in Nashville while jumper seemed stuck in the mud.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
I saw that but everyone else was lined up right. Jumper was just out of position, and slow to react, and couldn't fight through blocks. It amazes me that message board posters know more than the coaches.
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Dude Jumper gave Oklahoma a whole drive that led to their first TD. The Bowling Green game he gave up a big 4th down conversion from hustle alone. The Florida game he was terrible too. You say Kirkland got beat by Powell well news flash if he's matched up on Powell knowing the defense or not that's a win for Florida 9/10 times. Coaches can't let that matchup happen period. Powell is the same player that outran the Ole Miss defense like they were standing still. I highly doubt Kirkland can keep up with him in coverage. Kirkland grew by leaps and bounds with the increased PT. Jumper didn't make any plays while he was in despite giving up plays. Kirkland forced a fumble and got a sack in his first game of action. I'd rather have a guy in who will make big plays while busting plays instead of one who gets gashed and doesn't do a thing to balance things out. That's why coaches said forget it lets just go with the young guy.
 
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UTChicagoV said:
We start plenty of the young guys...just less than half the starting 22.

Starters on Offense that are SO or younger
Malone
Robertson
Thomas
Hall
Wolf
Hurd

Starters on Defense that are SO or younger
Barnett
Smith
Kirkland
Martin
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^^^ This 100%! I think playing younger players is one of CBJ's biggest selling points to recruits. Unfortunately with the lack of talent he inherited he had no choice but to play freshman. I would think the goal would be not to ha e to play freshman because you have developed so many talented juniors and seniors
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Dude Jumper gave Oklahoma a whole drive that led to their first TD. The Bowling Green game he gave up a big 4th down conversion from hustle alone. The Florida game he was terrible too. You say Kirkland got beat by Powell well news flash if he's matched up on Powell knowing the defense or not that's a win for Florida 9/10 times. Coaches can't let that matchup happen period. Powell is the same player that outran the Ole Miss defense like they were standing still. I highly doubt Kirkland can keep up with him in coverage. Kirkland grew by leaps and bounds with the increased PT. Jumper didn't make any plays while he was in despite giving up plays. Kirkland forced a fumble and got a sack in his first game of action. I'd rather have a guy in who will make big plays while busting plays instead of one who gets gashed and doesn't do a thing to balance things out. That's why coaches said forget it lets just go with the young guy.
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I agree, if Kirkland would have started from the first game, the extra PT he would have gotten would have been extremely beneficial. Sure he would have made some mistakes, but it still would have been better than Jumper lining everyone out properly. If every thing that we hear about Kirkland having a photographic memory, the he would have learned very quickly from his mistakes. By the time we got to the Florida game, he would have been better prepared to make the right calls, adjustments, etc., so we could have beaten that Gator a$$!
 
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BornToBleedOrange said:
I agree, if Kirkland would have started from the first game, the extra PT he would have gotten would have been extremely beneficial. Sure he would have made some mistakes, but it still would have been better than Jumper lining everyone out properly. If every thing that we hear about Kirkland having a photographic memory, the he would have learned very quickly from his mistakes. By the time we got to the Florida game, he would have been better prepared to make the right calls, adjustments, etc., so we could have beaten that Gator a$$!
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Foreman and Moseley blew that game with effort or lack there of......
 
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