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Depends, if you mean how valuable they are or how talented they are.

Dobbs is invaluable and we don't win games without him, but I agree Hurd is probably the best player on offense... Talent wise. Hard to argue your list but man we have some good players!

Your list. You decide.
 
My top 10 players on Team 119 (IN ORDER!!!)

1. Jalen Hurd
2. Jalen Reeves-Maybin
3. Josh Dobbs
4. Derek Barnett
5. Cam Sutton
6. Alvin Kamara
7. Josh Smith
8. Owen Williams
9. Kyler Kerbyson
10. Darrin Kirkland Jr.

Tell me how wrong I am.

Comprehensive list with most being interchangeable depending on your point of view. Amazing list of talent right there and it's just the tip of the iceburg!

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Assistant openings:

Arizona State: Offensive coordinator

Charlotte: Offensive line

Fresno State: Offensive coordinator

Illinois: Tight ends, inside linebackers

Michigan: Defensive coordinator

Minnesota: Offensive coordinator, one other position (quarterbacks or offensive line)

New Mexico State: Running backs

Oregon: Offensive coordinator

Penn State: Offensive coordinator

Purdue: Offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, defensive line

Texas Tech: Defensive line, outside linebackers, cornerbacks

Texas-San Antonio: Offensive coordinator

UAB: Two position coaches (Program will officially return to playing games in 2017)

UTEP: Offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, wide receivers

Wyoming: Wide receivers
 
My top 10 players on Team 119 (IN ORDER!!!)

1. Jalen Hurd
2. Jalen Reeves-Maybin
3. Josh Dobbs
4. Derek Barnett
5. Cam Sutton
6. Alvin Kamara
7. Josh Smith
8. Owen Williams
9. Kyler Kerbyson
10. Darrin Kirkland Jr.

Tell me how wrong I am.

Owen Williams in top 4 ahead of DB IMO. Our defense gave up 2 TDs to USC in the 3rd Qtr. with him on the bench, then we shut them down in the 4th with him in the game.

Two of C. Thomas, V. Pearson, & Vereen ahead of KK & DK maybe?
 
Forgetting AJ?

Knew I was forgetting someone.

Point is, the list in 2013 was embarrassing. You could probably make a decent list of top 25 players from 2015, but going beyond the top 12 or so in 2013 would have been difficult. Butch has completely overhauled the roster.

A national writer (Bruce Feldman?) said he watched a Tennessee practice in spring 2013 and didn't see any athletes on the field.
 
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You moved from Tampa Bay, Florida to Harlan, Kentucky?

.....are you a US Marshall?

Lol..nah I'm a minister. A small church here in Harlan had been without a pastor for about 18 months. Nobody wants to move to Harlan. It is sad that a lot of people talk about faith, few put into real sacrifice. God moved on my heart to come here, so I obeyed. I actually love it here now. A lot of folks here that need help.
 
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Let's go top 30 based on a mixture of overall potential and what they currently contribute to the team:

1. Dobbs
2. Hurd
3. JRM
4. Sutton
5. Barnett (would be #3 without injures during first half of season)
6. Berry
7. Kamara
8. Kirkland Jr. (will be elite next year, best MLB we've had in a very long time)
9. TK Jr.
10. Wolf
11. O. Williams
12. Daniel
13. Pearson
14. J. Smith
15. Malone
16. Vereen
17. Tuttle (pre-injury, top 10 potential next year)
18. KMack (top 10 potential next year)
19. C. Thomas
20. Martin
21. Kerbyson
22. Vickers
23. Medley
24. Ellis
25. Randolph
26. Robertson (would be higher without injuries)
27. Foreman (latter half of season)
28. Jennings
29. McNeil
30. McDowell

Scary thing is we only lose a handful of guys from this list, and they're almost all towards the bottom.

Graduating: O. Williams, Pearson, Randolph, McNeil, Kerbyson, Ellis, Sutton (likely but not guaranteed), JRM (maybe)

And then we still have guys like Kyle Phillips, Gaulden, Austin Smith, Derrell Taylor, Croom, North, Griffin, M. Abernathy, etc., who were either injured this year or didn't get a chance to play as much but could have huge impacts next year.

Jack Jones and Chance Hall could and probably should be in the top 30 somewhere as well based on their play towards the end of the season. Maybe Wiesman.
 
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My top 10 players on Team 119 (IN ORDER!!!)

1. Jalen Hurd
2. Jalen Reeves-Maybin
3. Josh Dobbs
4. Derek Barnett
5. Cam Sutton
6. Alvin Kamara
7. Josh Smith
8. Owen Williams
9. Kyler Kerbyson
10. Darrin Kirkland Jr.

Tell me how wrong I am.
I would put C. Vereen on this list for sure. In place of Kirkland or Kerbyson.
 
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Lol..nah I'm a minister. A small church here in Harlan had been without a pastor for about 18 months. Nobody wants to move to Harlan. It is sad that a lot of people talk about faith, few put into real sacrifice. God moved on my heart to come here, so I obeyed. I actually love it here now. A lot of folks here that need help.

I have family that live in Eolia. God bless you as you serve there. You are right about the great need in that area.

:hi:
 
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Let's go top 30 based on a mixture of overall potential and what they currently contribute to the team:

1. Dobbs
2. Hurd
3. JRM
4. Sutton
5. Barnett (would be #3 without injures during first half of season)
6. Berry
7. Kamara
8. Kirkland Jr. (will be elite next year, best MLB we've had in a very long time)
9. TK Jr.
10. Wolf
11. O. Williams
12. Daniel
13. Pearson
14. J. Smith
15. Malone
16. Vereen
17. Tuttle (pre-injury, top 10 potential next year)
18. KMack (top 10 potential next year)
19. C. Thomas
20. Martin
21. Kerbyson
22. Vickers
23. Medley
24. Ellis
25. Randolph
26. Robertson (would be higher without injuries)
27. Foreman (latter half of season)
28. Jennings
29. McNeil
30. McDowell

Scary thing is we only lose a handful of guys from this list, and they're almost all towards the bottom.

Graduating: O. Williams, Pearson, Randolph, McNeil, Kerbyson, Ellis, Sutton (likely but not guaranteed), JRM (maybe)

And then we still have guys like Kyle Phillips, Gaulden, Austin Smith, Derrell Taylor, Croom, North, Griffin, M. Abernathy, etc., who were either injured this year or didn't get a chance to play as much but could have huge impacts next year.

Jack Jones and Chance Hall could and probably should be in the top 30 somewhere as well based on their play towards the end of the season. Maybe Wiesman.

I think Kerbyson is extremely undervalued and under appreciated. Most improved player on the team, IMO. Where would we have been if he had gone down to injury? In a world of hurt.
 
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