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HialeahGator said:
UF was only suppose to win 6 or 7 according to VN and the media. Nothing can take away from what they accomplished this yr. Even losing 3 straight.
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Two words - Will Grier. Granted UF played better than expected because of their D that has been beaten down by season end. But WG should not have been playing. The O then becomes what it has been since he left and the season a major disappointment for UF fans. JMO. :hi:
 
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Dust10 said:
I believe all the money is split among SEC schools anyhow, so really its all about prestige.
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I thought the bowl team got about 1/2 with the balance going into a pool for all conference teams to share?

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it used to be this way. Of course, I'm getting up there in years...
 
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HialeahGator said:
UF was only suppose to win 6 or 7 according to VN and the media. Nothing can take away from what they accomplished this yr. Even losing 3 straight.
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You overachieved for sure, but I think we are learning it was more of a flash in the pan and may not be as sustainable as we thought.

UF will lose a ton of talent on D and McElwain certainly didn't do a fantastic job of restocking that talent last class beside a couple of guys. He very well may close extremely strong this year due to the success you're having though but it will be a young D.

Also the QB position is going to be a disaster next year.

I think you dip back down next year to where we thought you'd be this year then if he gets his QB of the future figured out next season you are right back in the 10+ wins in 2017.
 
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WinginFlorida said:
I thought the bowl team got about 1/2 with the balance going into a pool for all conference teams to share?

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it used to be this way. Of course, I'm getting up there in years...
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You are right, I don't have the percentages in front of me but it is something like the school gets 25-50% of the payout and the rest goes into a big pot that the entire conference splits.

So if it is 25% which I think is close to the number and the Bowl payouts are 2M and 1M then the difference in the payout for the two schools themselves is only 250k.
 
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Not that it matters now, but a 20lbs of muscle lighter version of Will Grier probably doesn't convert 4th and 14, nor does he perform nearly well enough for the 4th and 14 to ever happen/matter.

Alabama vs 9-3 Tennessee in Atlanta would be a much, much, much better SEC title game.
 
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Ericvol2096 said:
You overachieved for sure, but I think we are learning it was more of a flash in the pan and may not be as sustainable as we thought.

UF will lose a ton of talent on D and McElwain certainly didn't do a fantastic job of restocking that talent last class beside a couple of guys. He very well may close extremely strong this year due to the success you're having though but it will be a young D.

I think you dip back down next year to where we thought you'd be this year then if he gets his QB of the future figured out next season you are right back in the 10+ wins in 2017.
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Very possible.
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
Not that it matters now, but a 20lbs of muscle lighter version of Will Grier probably doesn't convert 4th and 14, nor does he perform nearly well enough for the 4th and 14 to ever happen/matter.

Alabama vs 9-3 Tennessee in Atlanta would be a much, much, much better SEC title game.
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Would have been Ole Miss vs Tennessee. I hate to be a sore loser, but it is pretty messed up to not make Florida vacate wins while playing with an ineligible QB. NCAA needs to show some consistency.
 
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HialeahGator said:
I will agree on playing better. We're down Alex McAllister, Bullard, Morrision, 3 starting OL, a kicker, a idiot WR and Grier.. I feel UF has the edge there. Hell, Harris alone may give us the edge. He's beyond awful.
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Did it ever come out as to what D. Rob did? Also, does anyone know why McKenzie didn't make the trip to GT for UGA? Feels like he's on his way out.
 
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PowerOrange said:
Would have been Ole Miss vs Tennessee. I hate to be a sore loser, but it is pretty messed up to not make Florida vacant wins while playing with an ineligible QB. NCAA needs to show some consistency.
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If the school can demonstrate they had no knowledge of it, then no. In Florida's case, they were unaware. As soon as the tests came back and were verified, Grier was history.

Besides, wasn't this a NCAA test he failed?
 
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GoBigOrange86 said:
While everyone emphasized the fact that we led in all our losses, each of those four was a very different story. The Oklahoma game was squandering a big lead against a better team because of a conservative game plan. The UF game was squandering a big lead against an inferior team because of an inability to make crucial stops. The Arkansas game was just getting outplayed by a more physical group. The Alabama game was holding a much better team in check with an opportunity to win it late, but talent ultimately winning out.

It's worth noting that we didn't allow any big time comebacks after UF. Yes, we had a 14-0 lead on Arky, but that was early and after EB doing what EB does on a kickoff. Alabama was a one point lead. We almost screwed up the South Carolina game, but unlike against UF and OU, we found a way to get it done when things seemed to be turning against us. That, to me, is a sign that the staff learned lessons from those early two fourth quarter meltdowns.

And, really, the UF game was very different in my mind from OU. We played conservative as we could the second half against the Sooners. I felt like the game plan against Florida was considerably more aggressive; we just failed to make a stop when we had to. You can quibble with a call here, a call there in the Florida game, but it was a different story than with Oklahoma. That, again, points to growth and adaptation.
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Good post. :hi:
 
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chavisut said:
No matter how their next two games play out, UF had a more successful season.
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theutvolunteers said:
Been spending some time in the FF today. Haven't in a long time.

Surprised at how many people are down on Butch.
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I lurked over there a bit too and thought the same thing but then I focused on the names - I don't think there are a lot - I think it's just a few :crazy: that post often.
 
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