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jave36 said:
Should have figured out OL before drafting a QB. I'll never understand why teams do that. Get a stud qb in and get him killed?
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True, but I'm glad they did it, provided Mariota makes it to the end of the season healthy. At this point they might as well just "waste" another season and make sure the OL is as stout as possible for the future. Hell, behind a solid line the team may be good enough to compete for the playoffs next season. I think MM will make a huge leap from year one to year two, especially if he has adequate protection.
 
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You can not miss on 1-2 round picks in the draft in the NFL.

Go way back and look

Pacman, VY, White, Locker, Womack, Lewan (has potential), Hunter, Sankey.
 
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volatil said:
You can not miss on 1-2 round picks in the draft in the NFL.

Go way back and look

Pacman, VY, White, Locker, Womack, Lewan (has potential), Hunter, Sankey.
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It's so crazy how average fans can see that a lot of first round picks are just awful, but people who make millions can't.

Locker? Really?
 
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volatil said:
You can not miss on 1-2 round picks in the draft in the NFL.

Go way back and look

Pacman, VY, White, Locker, Womack, Lewan (has potential), Hunter, Sankey.
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I'm kinda glad I'm not a hardcore NFL/Titans fan. I wouldn't have been able to take these past 5 years of Vols/Titans suckage every weekend.
 
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Aesius said:
I'm kinda glad I'm not a hardcore NFL/Titans fan. I wouldn't have been able to take these past 5 years of Vols/Titans suckage every weekend.
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I like the Titans but I don't live and die with them. I just sat here and waited for Mariota to get sacked.
 
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volatil said:
Locker was projected mid third round but the Titans selected him 10th overall.
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That's not true. He was projected by most as the 3rd best QB in the 2011 draft (Most considered Newton and Gabbert better prospects) and most projections had him going in the late 1st round or early second and starting a run of QB picks from there.

As things turned out, Newton, Locker, Gabbert, and Ponder all went in the first 12 picks and then Dalton and Kaepernick both went in the top of the second round. Nobody figured Locker would make it past the Bengals in the 2nd (where Dalton went) and most figured the Seahawks would take him with the 25th pick.

He was still a big reach and a bad pick, but nobody had him pegged as a 3rd rounder. Heck, if he'd left after his junior year of college, he'd have likely been the #1 overall pick.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
That's not true. He was projected by most as the 3rd best QB in the 2011 draft (Most considered Newton and Gabbert better prospects) and most projections had him going in the late 1st round or early second and starting a run of QB picks from there.

As things turned out, Newton, Locker, Gabbert, and Ponder all went in the first 12 picks and then Dalton and Kaepernick both went in the top of the second round. Nobody figured Locker would make it past the Bengals in the 2nd (where Dalton went) and most figured the Seahawks would take him with the 25th pick.

He was still a big reach and a bad pick, but nobody had him pegged as a 3rd rounder. Heck, if he'd left after his junior year of college, he'd have likely been the #1 overall pick.
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I had him as a 3rd round pick. I could tell in college he wasn't that great, and I'm pretty far from a talent scout. Almost everyone I knew was saying the same thing, no Titans fans I knew thought he was worth even a 2nd round pick.
 
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jave36 said:
I had him as a 3rd round pick. I could tell in college he wasn't that great, and I'm pretty far from a talent scout. Almost everyone I knew was saying the same thing, no Titans fans I knew thought he was worth even a 2nd round pick.
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I don't mean offense by this and am not trying to be a smart aleck, but your opinion and fan opions on Locker coming out of college doesn't/didn't matter. Experts all expected him to be taken in the first 40 picks. All of the professionals who spend their whole year watching film, breaking down every NFL's roster for needs, and spending hundreds of hours weighing all of this information to predict where a player will be drafted expected him to go early.

It's easy to say that you could tell he had 3rd round talent, but the fact of the matter is that QB is the most important position in the NFL (so their value is often a little inflated compared to their talent) and that a LOT of teams wanted QBs that year. The top two tiers of QBs in that draft had about 5-7 guys and there were even more teams than that who desperately needed a QB.

That's a big reason why all the professionals had him projected as a top 40 pick. No experts or GMs expected anything different. More goes into a draft projection than each player's talent level. If that was all there was to it, it would be really easy to peg the first 50-60 picks every year.

Edit: "I changed doesn't mean squat" to "doesn't matter" because it came off as more standoff-ish than I meant.
 
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volatil said:
As of March prior to 2011 Draft, Kiper had him in second round. I was off on that. He actually went 8th overall. That's still a huge leap.

To his credit, he just couldn't stay healthy. Played ok when he was upright.

Here's the article I found to support my ignorance LOL. Kiper moved him back into late first round March 9

2011 NFL Mock Draft: Mel Kiper Projects Jake Locker To Seattle Seahawks - SB Nation Seattle
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He was definitely a huge reach. But by draft time, most were still expecting him to be a top 40 pick.
 
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