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Man could go winless next season and his seat's air conditioned.

I thought I had read somewhere in the past few days there were some boosters or members of the administration that were really angry with Pinkel over this...I might be mistaken or the source was unreliable.

However, I lost a ton of respect for him. The team quit on the season and have quit on each other. I'm thinking he took the position he did to minimize losing the team any further. Pretty selfish and spineless if you ask me.

I'm guessing most if not all of you saw Jason Whitlock's and Clay Travis' piece as well. Bhomani Jones on ESPN Radio was also harshly critical of Pinkel as well.

Everyone affiliated with Missouri football should be extremely embarrassed.
 
When I live in Atlanta we had a yard with zoysia grass and that stuff was tough. I've also played a couple of golf courses with zoysia and really enjoyed it. Not sure it would work for a football field, but it's one tough grass. But it does turn brown in the winter.
 
When I live in Atlanta we had a yard with zoysia grass and that stuff was tough. I've also played a couple of golf courses with zoysia and really enjoyed it. Not sure it would work for a football field, but it's one tough grass. But it does turn brown in the winter.

Really expensive, slow growing, and turns brown at the first sign of cold but I LOVE zoysia. I wish my yard wad zoysia.
 
I thought I had read somewhere in the past few days there were some boosters or members of the administration that were really angry with Pinkel over this...I might be mistaken or the source was unreliable.

However, I lost a ton of respect for him. The team quit on the season and have quit on each other. I'm thinking he took the position he did to minimize losing the team any further. Pretty selfish and spineless if you ask me.

I'm guessing most if not all of you saw Jason Whitlock's and Clay Travis' piece as well. Bhomani Jones on ESPN Radio was also harshly critical of Pinkel as well.

Everyone affiliated with Missouri football should be extremely embarrassed.

Agree...I just think he has a forcefield right now. Fire at your own peril.
 
Golf course east of Knoxville, River Islands, is all zoysia fairways. They've never lost any of the fairways regardless of the winter weather conditions in over 20+ years. Love it.
 
Golf course east of Knoxville, River Islands, is all zoysia fairways. They've never lost any of the fairways regardless of the winter weather conditions in over 20+ years. Love it.

They do go dormant though just like Bermuda

That's the problem in this area. Bermuda goes dormant and rye grass has to be over seeded and is extremely slick and holds water during wet days.

I would love to know if a blanket for nights would keep the Bermuda playable and not have to overseed with rye. I know some Bermuda is still hanging on now in tenn.
 
Random Question: Has Deerpark chimed in on the whole crappy field issue recently? Just curious to know how that meeting went Monday between school officials and Butch. Is there a plan in place to correct it?

I take what Butch says about a meeting with a grain of salt. That usually is just his way of answering a question he doesn't know the answer to. I'm sure they have had meetings before but who knows if it was actually Monday. This isn't a new issue. Resodding the field every year it part of the problem. This wasn't an issue until TN starting doing this every yearr
 
DeerPark12's take on the field:

Wikipedia is incorrect, it was resodded for the first time in 2012, and has been every year since. Bobby Campbell didn't believe in resodding and his fields never came apart.

I do hate to defend the current guy, and will not spend much time doing it, but there are a few things that are out of his control. First, many of the fertilizers that were used on fields in the 1990s are no longer legal thanks to EPA regulation changes over the last 10 years or so. Same goes for the bright field paints that were used back then, the endzones will never look quite like they used to.

Bermuda fields like ours have always used rye grass to over seed in the fall. It not only makes the field green, it also helps protect the dormant Bermuda. Bobby Campbell did it when he was here, and he was the best there is ever been at maintaining a field. It is true, however, that rye grass is slippery at times. That doesn't stop many high schools, colleges, and professional teams from using it in the fall.

Now, all that said, our current groundskeeper has a background in growing baseball fields that do not take on much wear and tear, and golf courses in warm weather climates. He is quite capable of growing a field that looks good, but it is not very functional for football with the methods he uses to maintain it. If you ever get in the stadium early, you can notice how good it looks before pregame warm-ups. By the time the team runs through the T, though, it is significantly chewed up.

There are several people on staff that worked under Campbell that do not necessarily agree with the way he chooses to maintain our field, but he does not listen to their opinion.

It is true that the construction of the east side skyboxes and the video board each reduced the amount of sun the field gets. However, Campbell was able to keep it in pristine condition, even after those two projects were completed.
 
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DeerPark12's take on the field:

Wikipedia is incorrect, it was resodded for the first time in 2012, and has been every year since. Bobby Campbell didn't believe in resodding and his fields never came apart.

I do hate to defend the current guy, and will not spend much time doing it, but there are a few things that are out of his control. First, many of the fertilizers that were used on fields in the 1990s are no longer legal thanks to EPA regulation changes over the last 10 years or so. Same goes for the bright field paints that were used back then, the endzones will never look quite like they used to.

Bermuda fields like ours have always used rye grass to over seed in the fall. It not only makes the field green, it also helps protect the dormant Bermuda. Bobby Campbell did it when he was here, and he was the best there is ever been at maintaining a field. It is true, however, that rye grass is slippery at times. That doesn't stop many high schools, colleges, and professional teams from using it in the fall.

Now, all that said, our current groundskeeper has a background in growing baseball fields that do not take on much wear and tear, and golf courses in warm weather climates. He is quite capable of growing a field that looks good, but it is not very functional for football with the methods he uses to maintain it. If you ever get in the stadium early, you can notice how good it looks before pregame warm-ups. By the time the team runs through the T, though, it is significantly chewed up.

There are several people on staff that worked under Campbell that do not necessarily agree with the way he chooses to maintain our field, but he does not listen to their opinion.

It is true that the construction of the east side skyboxes and the video board each reduced the amount of sun the field gets. However, Campbell was able to keep it in pristine condition, even after those two projects were completed.

Bring on Campbell as a consultant.
 
In essence we roll out new carpet every year and none of it has time to establish the roots that would be required to stand up to big ass dudes slamming into each other.
 
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In essence we roll out new carpet every year and none of it has time to establish the roots that would be required to stand up to big ass dudes slamming into each other.

I don't buy that as the problem.

Super Bowl fields are sodded a matter of weeks before the game.

The issue IMO is centered around rye grass being a very tough surface to play on when wet.
 
Easy -- retractable roof at Neyland in 2016. Boom. No more wet field.



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The climate has to be the challenge. The Dolphins resod their field every single year...they've even done it mid-season before. Of course, the climate difference is significant. But the point I'm trying to get to is the annual resodding shouldn't be an issue.
 
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Seriously though, I've been critical of state schools that have resorted to turf fields instead of being able to maintain their own grass field. I can't wrap my mind around why we can't put the good brains of the agriculture department at UT on this problem and get it fixed! Seriously, its just grass, and it only gets used maybe a dozen times a year total... why is so hard??
 
A tarp would make the grass discolor badly

I have suggested a blanket at night to keep the Bermuda healthy.

It also would help with moisture as well

A tarp just for a day or so before a game would discolor grass? Sensitive stuff. Still better than playing in ice skates.
 
A tarp just for a day or so before a game would discolor grass? Sensitive stuff. Still better than playing in ice skates.

Yes tarps can ruin a field pretty badly especially considering how many days in a row there was rained last week. The problem is there is signifant pressure to have a good playing surface but maybe more pressure to have a pretty one. The rye grass takes care of only half of that and if it's wet it's hell on wheels to play on
 
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