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#4,826
#4,826
Good thing we have a YAC back with Hurd. Most other RBs would be real bad behind this OL
 
#4,827
#4,827
LA Vol said:
Sorry I got in the way of your cartwheels.
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It's not that. I'm bummed too, because I see how close we are. I'm sure the players are even more so, because they are the ones investing the blood, sweat, and tears. However, and I think they will do this at the end of this season, I can look back to just last year, and we were scraping tooth and nail just to reach 6-6 and make a bowl game. Year before that, we didn't make it. Year before that, Doofus was leading the charge. It was just a short time ago that we were absolutely terrible! Last year, we lost 3 games by 14+ points...this year up to this point our largest deficit of a loss was 7 in double OT, so in reality, I say the largest deficit really was 5 on the road against Bama. Look at how much progress Butch and this staff have made in a very short time...a TON! And this process is occurring in the face of what is a relatively young roster. We all want to win right now, but 3 short years ago when Butch took the job, almost all of us said that with the state of the roster, we really wouldn't be able to judge Butch until 2016. We are less than a handful of plays away from being not only in the SEC hunt, but the playoff hunt...in 2015!! That's pretty unreal honestly. Do some things need to change with the staff and with some in-game coaching decisions/adjustments? Yes! I'm hoping Butch makes those changes, because reflecting on everything and the state of the program when he took over, I think he's doing a tremendous job, and would like to see him be the coach of my alma mater for a very long time. Hope these kids can reach these same conclusions as they reflect after this season. Still need to win out though...a loss in the regular season to one of the teams we have left would really concern me.
 
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#4,829
#4,829
I expect little to come of this Hurd stuff. If he wants to be an NFL RB sooner rather than later, he'll stick it out. And everybody knows that's the case.

Transferring because he doesn't like our system and OL, getting a year older sitting out, and having a big year in a lesser conference will do little for his draft stock. NFL teams won't be too keen on spending a high draft pick on a guy who might try to dictate scheme to the staff or quit if his OL is banged up. That's what him transferring will look like to NFL teams and RBs are a cheap commodity today.

It's understandable that he's frustrated. Hindsight 20/20 he probably realizes a different scheme would have been better for him. But he was one of the players who signed up to "try and make Tennessee great again." He should've known that wasn't going to be easy.

I fully expect him to stick things out, have an even better 2016, and be in Indianapolis February 2017 for the combine.
 
#4,830
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BruinVol said:
This post was in response to travis Stephens and one that I would make my number one bullet point if I was recruiting against us for an elite back


74:

I'd agree with you, J, but most of the time Jalen has no idea if he's getting the ball or not to the very last minute. There are not many designed runs plays. It's all based off of whether Dobbs decides to keep or not. By default, you're a little tentative and not hit the hole as quick or hard as you should when you're not 100% sure what the play is even going to be.
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But trav's response would fix it.
 
#4,831
#4,831
Did Hurd not know what he was getting into when he first came here? He had to be well aware of the offensive scheme before he even stepped foot on campus.
 
#4,832
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BruinVol said:
Yes it's very valid.

Travis Stephens was saying he needed to stop being hesitant and that was the response
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Trav also said if Hurd would embrace the scheme instead of trying to change it then he would eat and that is what he should do. Stop trying to instigate and blow this up even more Bruin. You are not telling the whole story and that is worse than what 74 said. I don't care who it is but if Butch is any kind of coach then a player or family will not hold him hostage.
 
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JAllen18 said:
Jalen would have far more rushing yards, if the O-line were better.

This O-Line is average to below average. Give me LSU, BAMA's or Georgia Oline anyday and Hurd would be up there in numbers with Henry and Fournette.
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What did LsU do when they hit Bama with an offense centered around LF? What has UGA done since Chubb went down. Players and fans need to start looking big picture. We got Kamara because why?

Now has Bama suffered without Kamara?
 
#4,834
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OGbabyaviVol said:
This is trash, man, and you have mentioned it numerous times today. Most of the elite players that we have on this roster are freshmen and sophomores with a few juniors sprinkled in. Most rosters that are competing for championships have elite players in all classes. Players, such as Hurd, Barnett, Malone, etc, came here knowing the severity of terribleness of this roster. I'm sure they knew it might be their junior year before they have a legit shot at being in ATL. It just so happened that GA fell on its face yet again, and we are actually ahead in the rebuilding process, due to these sophomores and freshmen performing phenomenally. Are they frustrated because they see how close they are to reaching their goal of getting back to ATL? Absolutely! But you make it sound like this season is a disappointment. If we win out, 8-4 with a pretty decent bowl game (and the 4 losses by a total of 17 points) is not a disappointment. It's a pretty decent improvement, especially when you consider how many injuries we have had, the severity of those injuries, and who those injuries took out for numerous games or the season. If we win out, I think many of these players will reflect and realize just how close we are, and will work that much harder in the offseason to make sure we are checking into a hotel in ATL the 1st weekend of Dec next year.
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I agree with this. I wonder if the players might be playing the "what if" game as we fans are?
 
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#4,835
engineerVOL said:
Well, bye.

Haha, in all seriousness Nashville grossly lacks infrastructure, namely highways. I've visited Indianapolis and Charlotte recently and was so impressed with the infrastructure when compared to Nashville.

The common denominator: state income tax.

Fair trade to me! 😊
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Texas has a pretty good highway and transit system set up overall. No state income tax here
 
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#4,836
#4,836
I hate that this stuff came out and I am sure in a moment of frustration he may have said some of this stuff. After the Florida game I said I was not watching my vols anymore this year....... Guess who was watching the next week. He ain't going anywhere.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
If I go on a hunger strike y'all think I could get Cheek fired?
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No, but if you could get the football team to say that they refused to play anymore until cheek steps down… That might be a statement. IThey don't even have to give a reason
:)
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
No, but if you could get the football team to say that they refused to play anymore until cheek steps down… That might be a statement. IThey don't even have to give a reason
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I think you underestimate my resolve. 7-10 restaurants in Knoxville would shut down.
 
#4,840
#4,840
I think this is kinda rediculous. Hurd is a hunert and some yards away from a 1000 yard season. They're not many backs that can say that and starting in the sec. He is also the premier back at TN. Not only that, he may have a chance to break the all time rushing record at TN. I believe he has a lot of reasons to stay. Whether what's been said is the truth or not. Jmo
 
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