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MercyPercy said:
Absolute horse**** she got away with murdering that man. I await the spin from the usual suspects.
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"If you have so much negative and nothing positive to say about American cops, why don't you move somewhere else or man-up and take matters into your own hands?"
 
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LouderVol said:
honestly, if I felt the way you guys appear to, I wouldn't be in this country. :twocents:
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Home is home. Just because it is populated with a bunch of tyranny loving police worshipping sycophants does not mean it isn't still our preferred place to live.

Think of it this way. You live in an old farm house whose foundation has been deteriorating for quite some time. You love that house because it is where your family has lived from generation to generation for over a hundred years. Should you just leave if the foundation is compromised? Should you bury your head in the sand and refuse to acknowledge the foundation as an issue? Or should you try to fix the foundation? By your logic, we should just leave it and allow the idiotic in-laws to maintain it even though they are completely oblivious to the undermined foundation.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Home is home. Just because it is populated with a bunch of tyranny loving police worshipping sycophants does not mean it isn't still our preferred place to live.

Think of it this way. You live in an old farm house whose foundation has been deteriorating for quite some time. You love that house because it is where your family has lived from generation to generation for over a hundred years. Should you just leave if the foundation is compromised? Should you bury your head in the sand and refuse to acknowledge the foundation as an issue? Or should you try to fix the foundation? By your logic, we should just leave it and allow the idiotic in-laws to maintain it even though they are completely oblivious to the undermined foundation.
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considering that fixing the foundations would probably cost more than the house is worth with good foundations, yeah I would still consider leaving. and that any fix would likely drastically change the house as to be unrecognizable, again yeah it becomes a relevant topic of discussion.

The problem I have with you is that you are yelling as loud as you can that there are foundation issues, yet your fix is to simply remove the foundations. No foundation, no foundation problems. What seems to be beyond any argument I have heard is what takes their place.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
CarlPickens: "Listen, I don't agree with what the cop did, but none of this would have happened if the guy had just obeyed orders. It is really his own fault he got murdered by this officer"
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Girl gets raped and a fraternity party…

"Listen... Nobody's trying to say what the guy did was right but all I can say is that I've never worn a mini skirt and a low-cut tank top to a frat party and surprisingly enough I've never gotten raped."

I wonder if he crosses his fingers and thinks "I know this argument is 0 for 100, but maybe it'll be relevant this time!"
 
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LouderVol said:
considering that fixing the foundations would probably cost more than the house is worth with good foundations, yeah I would still consider leaving. and that any fix would likely drastically change the house as to be unrecognizable, again yeah it becomes a relevant topic of discussion.

The problem I have with you is that you are yelling as loud as you can that there are foundation issues, yet your fix is to simply remove the foundations. No foundation, no foundation problems. What seems to be beyond any argument I have heard is what takes their place.
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There's the problem. In this metaphor, you view the police as the foundation. In my mind, liberty is the foundation. Liberty is eroding. Police state is a symptom of that problem. We need to fix liberty, not necessarily fix the police explicitly without being mindful of an end goal of restoring liberty.

I want this country to be land of the free, you want it to be land of the people who are given enough creature comforts and security to be tricked into believing they are free.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
There's the problem. In this metaphor, you view the police as the foundation. In my mind, liberty is the foundation. Liberty is eroding. Police state is a symptom of that problem. We need to fix liberty, not necessarily fix the police explicitly without being mindful of an end goal of restoring liberty.

I want this country to be land of the free, you want it to be land of the people who are given enough creature comforts and security to be tricked into believing they are free.
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We are just at two different points of the safety/freedom spectrum. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. imo, it comes in that order of importance. We take the life part for granted and have completely devalued it. I agree the police need work. But no matter how "good" we get the police, instances like this are going to happen. to go back to the metaphor I am not going to react to every crack in the concrete, its going to happen.

and again I have yet to hear any solution.
 
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Also guys, you really can't even tell what's happening in that video. The camera's not even on the guy when she shots him. We don't have all the facts of those 2 seconds. I mean... Maybe he's well versed in the art of magical spells and he conjured an AR-15 with with with a never ending magazine of exploding hollow points. Every one knows a that magical riffles explode into 100 million tiny pieces the second their conjuror is shoot and weakened. That's why it wasn't there when the camera was back in him.

*FTR it was intentional. I was gracious enough to tee you up so you could easily just insult me while the point I was trying to make soared over head.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Care to comment on the video?

BTW, how many times just this year have we seen cops shoot people in the back?
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Comment? Excessive force was used. And she went to trial for it.

I figure there's enough outrage without me adding my two cents worth about it.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I would be very interested to know what the start of all this was and why the cops felt the need to jeopardize the lives of everyone else on the roads for...
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Man Whose 6-Year-Old Son Was Killed During Car Chase by Louisiana Cops Was Unarmed

In an interview with the Guardian, Dixon said she and Few had been bickering at a local pool hall shortly before the incident and that Few left to pick up his son at a relative’s house. Later, Dixon said, Few pulled up next to her at a stop light and asked her to go home with him. “I wouldn’t do it,” Dixon said. “I’m stubborn.”

According to the Guardian, it was moments later that Dixon saw “two marshals’ cars—marked in black and white—approaching from behind with their lights flashing. She looked into Few’s car as he pulled away, and he was pointing at his son’s head, indicating that he was in the car and he wasn’t sure what to do.”

Dixon told the Guardian that Few was “afraid of the marshals … because he and and one of the marshals on the scene had a prior personal conflict.”
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SamRebel35 said:
CarlPickens: "Listen, I don't agree with what the cop did, but none of this would have happened if the guy had just obeyed orders. It is really his own fault he got murdered by this officer"
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Well Mr. My balls float in the bathtub ..... The cop was incompetent.... No doubt about that whatsoever.... Once he was on the ground he couldn't obey due to being lit up the whole time.... No excuse for the officer..... But I bet he wouldn't have been shot had he not ran in the first place..... He's was an idiot....however He didn't deserve to die
 
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