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The talent gap is not that wide between UT and UF. UF played better than expected and UT played worse than expected. UF's ability to make big plays at critical times won them games and failing to do it lost us games. If we could have made one critical play in three different games, we could be sitting where UF is in the playoff picture... despite any talent differential.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
No Dobbs in 2017 and Guarantano will only be a RS Freshmen. I think folks don't acknowledge just how important Dobbs is to our success.

We could also be losing Hurd, Kamara, and Barnett early. That's alot of talent to replace.
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Dormady will be a junior and he's going to be good.
 
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Ericvol2096 said:
UF has the same # of 5*'s on their roster as ours but all of ours are freshman and sophmores.

They have 6 evenly divided I think it is 2 seniors, 1 JR, 1 Soph and 2 Freshman.

They also have a couple more 4 *'s on their roster than us and once again their 4*'s are older than ours.

McElwain walked into a great situation. He was an offensive coach with a Elite defense that already knew how to perform.

He had some tools to work with on offense (Robinson, Callaway, RB's, Grier, TE) and really just had to get their confidence up and get them to gel.

The only real miracle I see that they have pulled off is with the OL. Not sure how it hasn't been more of a liability.

To act like we lost to some crappy team in the Swamp is ignorant.

It is frustrating knowing how close we were and that we had every right to win, but it did take two trick plays and a few 4th downs for us to ever get in position to be ahead.
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Also, someone posted it on here a week or so back, that Florida had something like four top 5 or top 10 recruiting classes in a row coming into this season.
 
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the only players anybody would of taken off of uf's offense in the preseason were demarcus robinson and kelvin taylor and even taylor wasnt exactly seen as anything more then a mid level sec back

We're pretty damn close to Kentucky in the wr/rb department
 
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Guess what happened the year after Peyton graduated. We might just get better. Whoever replaces Dobbs will have a championship level defense. One of those QBs will rise to the occasion.
 
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LA Vol said:
The talent gap is not that wide between UT and UF. UF played better than expected and UT played worse than expected. UF's ability to make big plays at critical times won them games and failing to do it lost us games. If we could have made one critical play in three different games, we could be sitting where UF is in the playoff picture... despite any talent differential.
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The argument that "UT played worse than expected" is defensible with respect to our defense in the fourth quarter. Our offense, however, generated 27 points and more than 400 yards of total offense. I would have liked to have seen more out of our downfield passing game, but anytime you rush for 254 yards vs. the Reptilian Horde, you have accomplished something worthy of commendation.
 
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Vols said:
Also, someone posted it on here a week or so back, that Florida had something like four top 5 or top 10 recruiting classes in a row coming into this season.
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i was shocked when i did the math they avg 10 even with the below avg last year
 
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BIG BOI 23 said:
the only players anybody would of taken off of uf's offense in the preseason were demarcus robinson and kelvin taylor and even taylor wasnt exactly seen as anything more then a mid level sec back

We're pretty damn close to Kentucky in the wr/rb department
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No you're not at WR. The young guys Powell and Calloway are talented.
 
#3,391
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We have a one year window to becone and stay more talented than UF on avg.

Butch hangs his hat on recruiting but 2016 class means more than many are seeing on that front.
 
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HialeahGator said:
Why? He played until 'AA ruled him ineligible which was after second test was confirmed. Not really sure how that falls on UF.
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He cheated, he's the leader of the team. Stop making excuses for them. You are enabling HG. I'm sure your children looked up to this guy. I just hate that cheaters are gonna win. It sends the wrong message to high schoolers. You roid up for the big games in the season and your team is rewarded.
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
Actual Scores:

Ole Miss 27 Auburn 19 L
Georgia 3 Florida 27 L
Vanderbilt 0 Houston 34 L
South Carolina 28 Texas A&M 35 W
Tennessee 52 Kentucky 21 W
UT Mart 28 Arkansas 63 L (closing line was -37).

Terrible week. 2-4 drops me to 41-22 for the season. No more betting with my heart (wanted Georgia and Auburn to be better than they are so that the Vols could make it Atlanta). Back to beating with my brain. A lot of games this week. Check in Wednesday for picks.

GBOV
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Okay time for picks (a little late this week). 41-22 ATS for the season. Here we go:

Thursday lines:

Mississippi St. at +7.5 Missouri
Kentucky at -14.5 Georgia
Vanderbilt at -21.5 Florida
South Carolina at -17 Tennessee
LSU at -6.5 Alabama
Arkansas at -10.5 Ole Miss
Auburn at -7 Texas A&M

My picks:

Miss St. 31 Missouri 12
Kentucky 35 Georgia 38
Vanderbilt 3 Florida 20
South Carolina 15 Tennessee 34
LSU 20 Alabama 23
Arkansas 30 Ole Miss 26
Auburn 34 Texas A&M 30

I'm heavy on the road dogs this week. Good luck!

GBOV
 
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UT = Checkmate said:
He cheated, he's the leader of the team. Stop making excuses for them. You are enabling HG. I'm sure your children looked up to this guy. I just hate that cheaters are gonna win. It sends the wrong message to high schoolers. You roid up for the big games in the season and your team is rewarded.
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Oh jeez, is this narrative real? I just assumed that this was something fun to give UF fans **** about. Do people really believe they should forfeit wins over this?
 
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The Breakerboy said:
No you're not at WR. The young guys Powell and Calloway are talented.
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Yea and Powell was moved from rb and callaway is a true freshman who is already the best wr we have

And other then Robinson there's a lot of dead weight

Luckily we had a couple good tight ends that were never used until this year

Speaking of tight ends nauta would be smart to give uf a look not many coaches use te's as much as mac
 
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BIG BOI 23 said:
Yea and Powell was moved from rb and callaway is a true freshman who is already the best wr we have

And other then Robinson there's a lot of dead weight

Luckily we had a couple good tight ends that were never used until this year

Speaking of tight ends nauta would be smart to give uf a look not many coaches use te's as much as mac
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Nauta gonna happen.
 
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