Preston Williams Updates?

[Other_Guy]

See my list above.

Jones has taken tremendous pride in bragging about the pace of UT's practices and emphasized physicality. So basically they push pace until guys are exhausted and then they hurt joints or in contact drills. You can push someone so far that physical actions that would normally be no problem produce injuries.

So you've went to dozens of top coaches' practices and now have studied Butch's practices and have determined he pushes the players too hard?

Were you at practice this week? How is Williams doing?

 

[Denton'sGhostGBO]

Barring injury Dormady will not be starting this year and there's a 95% he will not be starting next year so let's nip this in the bud now.

Preston Williams is a Freshman yes?
I think It is fair to say Dormady will be the starter by 2017... Which would be Williams and other Freshmen receivers Junior year.

Thanks for the spell check... My phone is unaware of who Dormady is currently... My next one will be fully aware (Damn two year contracts...)

 

[TGVol]

He did lead in yards per catch against UGA.

Ok. By the way I do like him a lot and think he will be great for us. Just not ready to call him a baller until he helps win some games against main rivals. As of now on this team these are the people I would call ballers as far as offense is concerned:

Hurd
Dobbs
J Smith
Kamara
Malone

where it's perhaps somewhat a push to add Kamara and Malone to the list (maybe even Dobbs if you take away first half of UF game and second half of UGA game where he was amazing).

Add to this Reeves-Maybin on defense and Berry on kickoff returns and that pretty much sums it up. Very disappointed and surprised to not have Sutton, Barnett, North, Wolf, & Pig on this list.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Our injuries will not decrease as long as we have this Big East coaching staff that doesn't understand how to run practices at the SEC level. How many years will it take for fans to realize these injuries have a lot to do with coaching?

This has got to be the most ignorant thing I have read on this board and thats saying alot!!

 

[governmentmule]

I'm not sure how much physicality the team has in practices, but every game I've seen on TV the opposing teams are continually helping their players off the field. I think Tenn is just playing very physical football and players get hurt. Both Tenn and the other teams.

I think you are right,the Vols are playing some tuff football and have no quit in them,even when there gassed in the 4th quater

 

[VolinHermitage]

It's Dormady!! Lets nip that in the bud while we're at it!

Gosh, after reading these posts, we don't have to worry about Dormady playing after this year at all since between his Big 12 influenced upbringing (from Texas) and the "Big East" coaching influence in Knoxville, he may not live until his sophomore year in the SEC!

 

[volinbama256]

He is a baller

who has dropped some key balls....

 

[volinbama256]

Preston Williams is a Freshman yes?
I think It is fair to say Dormady will be the starter by 2017... Which would be Williams and other Freshmen receivers Junior year.

Thanks for the spell check... My phone is unaware of who Dormady is currently... My next one will be fully aware (Damn two year contracts...)

Unless you have confirmed that JG is not signing with us and will not be here in January, Dormady is going to unfortunately remain a backup here. Dobbs will start next year with JG, Jones, and Dormady all pushing, but by '17 JG will be the starter.

 

[volpreacher]

Who has been injured? And FTR, there are no 17 year olds on this roster.

Marcus Jackson- RS Sr
Curt Maggitt- RS Sr
Austin Sanders- RS So
Pig Howard was injured before getting the boot- Sr
Shy Tuttle- Fr
RD Abernathy- RS Sr
Rashaan Gaulden- So
Marquez North- Jr
Vincent Perry- Fr
Jason Croom- RS Jr

So there Mr "Great Fan"... it has NOTHING AT ALL to do with playing 18 year olds or those mythical 17 year olds you referenced. In fact, there are more guys on this list with at least 3 years in Jones' S&C program than there are true Fr.


BTW, if you don't like the Vols enough to inform yourself.... go somewhere else and cheer.

These guys you've mentioned have played extensively as freshman. We are forced to play early and without depth. I would say I've been a fan much longer than you through the good and bad

 

[AllforTenn]

The Big East version of the "no injury" incantations that coaches mutter during practice simply don't work in the SEC. The sooner Butch learns that, the better.

Maybe you can explain those incantations to all of us who are not familiar with the Big East. By the way, Butch was not a Big East coach.

 

[Other_Guy]

Gosh, after reading these posts, we don't have to worry about Dormady playing after this year at all since between his Big 12 influenced upbringing (from Texas) and the "Big East" coaching influence in Knoxville, he may not live until his sophomore year in the SEC!

Light blue font = light sarcasm = slightly serious???

 

[volpreacher]

YES. Just... YES.

So tired of people referring to 17 year olds on our team. I actually looked it up and the majority of our freshmen were actually 19 when they enrolled !

You are EIGHTEEN when you go to college.

I love all of the guys on here talking about how we have 17 year olds going up against 23 year olds. 6 year difference, there. LOL

I love how people like you two know nothing about football and try to talk about it. And whether they are 16 or 20 if they haven't gone through a couple of years college conditioning they are,at a huge disadvantage.

 

[themoodystwo]

It is high time for the football GODS to start smiling down on us RIGHT NOW and on into the FORESEEABLE FUTURE!! We deserve it more than any team I can think of. 9-4 for 2015 or bust. Let's finish out 2015 before we get too focused on 2016. We don't want to flip the wagon while turning the corner.

There is only one problem with your assessment, There is no such thing as football gods. Sorry to bust your bubble.:cray:

 

[KingtUT]

Our injuries will not decrease as long as we have this Big East coaching staff that doesn't understand how to run practices at the SEC level. How many years will it take for fans to realize these injuries have a lot to do with coaching?

Good greif. The fact that you're serious makes this one of the funniest things ive ever read on Volnation.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Mephisto H. Deviladus

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Our injuries will not decrease as long as we have this Big East coaching staff that doesn't understand how to run practices at the SEC level. How many years will it take for fans to realize these injuries have a lot to do with coaching?

Prove it.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Based on?

You're kidding right?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

This is just as baseless and speculative as the theory that we're getting injured because we're playing too many underclassmen. The reality is that football is a contact sport, and injuries sometimes just randomly happen. Ask Nick Chubb how exhausted he was when he blew out his knee on the first play of the game. Has anybody even established that Tennessee is suffering from an above-average number of injuries, much less an abnormally high amount?

Look at some of the videos put up on UT Football's Youtube channel about player nutrition, postgame recovery and sleep habits. Josh Dobbs is ordered to roll around campus on a Segway scooter for goodness sake. Butch & Co. are doing plenty to prevent injuries.

Some people just need to grouse for no reason.

You're correct.

 

[IndianapolisVol]

I love how people like you two know nothing about football and try to talk about it. And whether they are 16 or 20 if they haven't gone through a couple of years college conditioning they are,at a huge disadvantage.

Hey preach, when did I ever say ANYTHING about conditioning?

Old man, I was talking about age. Get off the damn computer and go take your wife shopping and fall asleep on a bench at the mall or something, pal. GTFO of my thread.

 

[sjt18]

This is just as baseless and speculative as the theory that we're getting injured because we're playing too many underclassmen.

Ummmm, no it isn't. Injuries are more likely to occur when players are fatigued. Jones has BOASTED about pushing to players with pace and physicality. Technically it is still speculation... but a very reasonable speculation.

The "theory" that players are getting hurt because they're underclassmen is disproven by the very fact that the majority of the key injuries weren't to underclassmen.

The reality is that football is a contact sport, and injuries sometimes just randomly happen. Ask Nick Chubb how exhausted he was when he blew out his knee on the first play of the game. Has anybody even established that Tennessee is suffering from an above-average number of injuries, much less an abnormally high amount?

Injuries DO happen in football. You're attempt to "disprove" my point by citing Chubb falls flat. Why didn't you use Tuttle instead?

There are going to be injuries. FATIGUE DOES increase the risk of injury of mistake in EVERY activity.... not just football.

Look at some of the videos put up on UT Football's Youtube channel about player nutrition, postgame recovery and sleep habits. Josh Dobbs is ordered to roll around campus on a Segway scooter for goodness sake. Butch & Co. are doing plenty to prevent injuries.

Some people just need to grouse for no reason.

Dude. All of that stuff is great and will hopefully help. It will NOT prevent guys from getting tired in practice due to pace and then getting hurt.

Are you really so sold out to deflect responsibility from Jones that you resist a very, very simple fact? Tired people are more susceptible to injury. It is true of factory workers, soldiers,.... and football players.

Having watched him awhile now, Jones WILL make some adjustments to try to reduce practice injuries especially. They will make S&C changes based on the number of arm muscle injuries.

It is just so funny watching the knee jerk reactions of people like you when you sense someone suggesting Jones isn't perfect.

 

[sjt18]

At least 75% of those were hurt in game correct???

I see at least 6 of those injuries that were in practice- North, Jackson, Sanders, Willams, Perry, and Gaulden.

So no... 75% did not occur in games.

 

[sjt18]

Oh, IIRC, Croom was injured in practice during bowl prep so that would make it 7.

Jason Croom of Tennessee Volunteers sidelined for TaxSlayer Bowl

 

[sjt18]

Excellent post.

Factually untrue is "excellent". Interesting. Otherwise, how is the water Mr Lemming?

 

[sjt18]

So you've went to dozens of top coaches' practices and now have studied Butch's practices and have determined he pushes the players too hard?

Were you at practice this week? How is Williams doing?

Nope. I actually listen when Jones speaks. He has boasted about the pace and physicality of his practices. He has actually referenced those things when referencing guys who were nicked up in August and being held out of practice.

So unless he was lying about pushing the pace and physicality of practice more than other programs do... it is PERFECTLY reasonable AND in line with what he has said to infer that the unusually high numbers of players lost in practice were lost because of the reasons Jones provided.

 

[sjt18]

These guys you've mentioned have played extensively as freshman. We are forced to play early and without depth.

So? Playing as Fr two years ago doesn't make them more susceptible to injury now... probably less so. That wasn't what you said anyway. Just be an honest preacher...

UT's "depth" isn't far off what most programs have. UGA has played more Fr than anyone this year. UF is playing young guys and is thin at numerous spots. Bama is certainly deep. But UT's other opponents have depth issues here and there as well.

I would say I've been a fan much longer than you through the good and bad

I don't know either way... but it does not change the fact that you said something that was factually incorrect and are now trying to wiggle out of it instead of admitting you had your facts wrong.

FWIW, I have been a Vol fan for well over 20 years so I am no novice. You could have looked just under my screen name and known that I have been HERE for 10 years discussing Vol football.

Disagreeing with you doesn't make someone ignorant... in fact... it seems far from it.