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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I'm legitimately shocked to see that from you.
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Why is that? I know there is a small percentage of bad cops just like there is a percentage of bad people in every profession out there. I don't feel sympathy for the guys refusing simple requests and acting like idiots like most of these videos show.
 
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I will admit I say some things here just to stir the pot and cause outrage from the cop lovers. At the end of the day, I'm an anarchist at heart, and I view the only legitimate authority over my life as my own. I harm no one, I mind my own business, and expect the same from others.

I don't call for violence against cops or anyone else. My beliefs prevent me from using force against anyone that hasn't first accosted me.

Sooner or later folks need to realize cops are the pointy end of politics, their only interest is to enforce the law set by their political masters. It's simply a revenue racket that profits from ruining the lives of non violent people. Are there actual criminals out there? sure. One has to ask oneself, with all the actual unsolved crimes, how is it cops have time to give out speeding tickets and bust people for having plant in their possession.
We're sitting on a very slippery slope in danger of sliding over the edge to a police state. The sad thing is, "the people" will ask for it....
 
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volbeast33 said:
It wasn't selling his own property bc he probably could get away with it if he sold it at his home or neighborhood.... You cannot harass customers in front of businesses especially businesses that carry the same product. It would be like me setting up shop in front of wal mart trying to sell things they carry inside the store for a cheaper price.... There is no world where that would or should be allowed.
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So it should be prevented by using the violence of the state?
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Well, if I'm a responding officer, I would've simply told him to move along. No need for the violence that would eventually lead to Garners death. It's stupid.
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And after you have been there telling him to move along 20 plus times....he had multiple citations and refused when the cop asked to talk to him.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
And? It's a victimless crime, he's hurting no one. No need for the violence.
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He is hurting the store owners business and his ability to feed his family.... You don't think that would escalate into a confrontation between store owner and the idiot standing in front of his store bugging his customers.
 
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volbeast33 said:
He is hurting the store owners business and his ability to feed his family.... You don't think that would escalate into a confrontation between store owner and the idiot standing in front of his store bugging his customers.
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He was on the sidewalk, that's not the store owners property.
Again, he should've been told to move along and that should've been the end of it.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
He was on the sidewalk, that's not the store owners property.
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So you think it should be legal to do what did.... If you owned a business I guarantee that you would be trying to get him out of there...I can't believe that you can't see how he is hurting the business owner.
 
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volbeast33 said:
So you think it should be legal to do what did.... If you owned a business I guarantee that you would be trying to get him out of there...I can't believe that you can't see how he is hurting the business owner.
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I believe in the free market, if anything it generates competition for the store owner, resulting in lower prices for the consumer.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Let's get to the real reason Garner died. Taxation.

That's why selling "loosies" are illegal after all, NY's ridiculous tax on cigarettes.
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It should be illegal without taxation but that's not the discussion we are having.... I don't care about the govt getting his share but the effect that garner had on the business owner... You are shifting the discussion
 
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volbeast33 said:
It should be illegal without taxation but that's not the discussion we are having.... I don't care about the govt getting his share but the effect that garner had on the business owner... You are shifting the discussion
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No, I'm looking at the bigger picture. There is a consequence to these laws. As I pointed out earlier, cops are the pointy end of politics. They have to enforce these ridiculous laws.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I believe in the free market, if anything it generates competition for the store owner, resulting in lower prices for the consumer.
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Your view of free market is severely warped.... I would never pay for store rental or electricity or anything else.... I would just set up booths in front of other people's stores and reap the benefits.... Of course I would move on to a new store after I ran the current store out of business.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
No, I'm looking at the bigger picture. There is a consequence to these laws. As I pointed out earlier, cops are the pointy end of politics. They have to enforce these ridiculous laws.
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This law needed to be enforced or it would be enforced at the end of a store owners gun.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Your view of free market is severely warped.... I would never pay for store rental or electricity or anything else.... I would just set up booths in front of other people's stores and reap the benefits.... Of course I would move on to a new store after I ran the current store out of business.
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My view of the free market is completely without government protection or interference. So yeah, according to today's standards of operating a business, I suppose it is twisted.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Few people can render me speechless.

Congrats, you made the short list. I really don't know what it's like to go through life fearing something that is statistically so improbable it can't even be mentioned.
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I have successfully stopped all conversation with him/her. Now if I could just do the same with Ras, but I kinda like his rants about Russia.
 
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tim said:
I have successfully stopped all conversation with him/her. Now if I could just do the same with Ras, but I kinda like his rants about Russia.
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Just as well, you never countered any points anyway. You just spew what your masters tell you to spew. And to think I was actually nice to you.
 
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volbeast33 said:
So how should the security guy get him to leave?
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That would be for the store owner and the security guard to decide. I'm pretty sure choking the man to death wouldn't come into the conversation.

Likely, the guard would approach him and tell him in a polite manner to move along. Although, I personally see no problem with him being on the sidewalk, that's a public area, if we're using today's standards.
 
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