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Pig, Pearson, and North all have their strengths and weaknesses. I'm of the belief that the unit as a whole is so good that you'll have different guys stepping up each game. Also include Malone, Jennings, Smith, and Williams. Just because one or two guys have a big game and the rest don't doesn't mean that those guys stink. It's the system Butch runs. As long as we run it, we will never have a WR with Heisman worthy stats.
 
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Dust10 said:
Pig, Pearson, and North all have their strengths and weaknesses. I'm of the belief that the unit as a whole is so good that you'll have different guys stepping up each game. Also include Malone, Jennings, Smith, and Williams. Just because one or two guys have a big game and the rest don't doesn't mean that those guys stink. It's the system Butch runs. As long as we run it, we will never have a WR with Heisman worthy stats.
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Strange stat I heard today and this post reminded me of it.

The Ravens nor the Seahawks have had an all pro WR for 20years.

It's an overblown position in my opinion especially when teams have a running game like we do
 
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Catbone said:
Either way Butch will be under an enormous amount of pressure to beat Florida. He better have them prepared. I think he realizes he can't lose both.
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Yeah. He can split and be okay. I think the fanbase would unanimously prefer a win over UF, but a win this weekend would help take the sting out of a loss in Gainesville if it happened.

Losing both would be bad. Really, really bad.
 
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BruinVol said:
Is our running game more Edge Blocking oriented than most offenses over those few decades???

If so you are comparing oranges to apples
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you might want to familiarize yourself with the game of football, particularly the inverted veer and the read option, and when they came into existence
 
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just wish we could get the team on the field together at the same time. Its ridiculous a RS Junior is dumb enough to get suspended for this type of game.
 
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StoVol said:
you might want to familiarize yourself with the game of football, particularly the inverted veer and the read option, and when they came into existence
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Lol

The ones where WRs never caught passes and the play clock ran down close to zero every play?


Is that correct??
 
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BruinVol said:
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Many of the posters complaining about north coming off the field in the rotation are the same posters claiming last Saturday was an extremely impressive performance. How can one complain about north but also claim we were the best we have been in over a decade???
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There is a difference between better and best. Our offense will be at it's best when guys like North are being fed. What we did against BG won't work against the good teams as effectively as against BG.
 
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Aesius said:
There's nothing we can do against OU that would hurt our chances against UF, aside from maybe having Dobbs return punts or something.

If we beat OU, the team will roll into Gainesville with an enormous amount of confidence.
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Assuming we beat WCU as well.
 
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BruinVol said:
Strange stat I heard today and this post reminded me of it.

The Ravens nor the Seahawks have had an all pro WR for 20years.

It's an overblown position in my opinion especially when teams have a running game like we do
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How many teams that HAVE won the Super Bowl HAVE had an elite WR. It's not an overblown position.
 
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LA Vol said:
How do we bury a decade?
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"Youse need sumthin buried?"
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BruinVol said:
Lol

The ones where WRs never caught passes and the play clock ran down close to zero every play?


Is that correct??
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but where they had to do such strenuous blocking that they were subbed every 2 plays.. that game
 
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StoVol said:
but where they had to do such strenuous blocking that they were subbed every 2 plays.. that game
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Game 1. They might have have been trying to get as many players as much playing time as possible. Might not be as much rotating groups in this game and future games.
 
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tomq_123 said:
Game 1. They might have have been trying to get as many players as much playing time as possible. Might not be as much rotating groups in this game and future games.
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Yeah I think this could be it too. They know what they have in North in my opinion. I don't know if he will ever be featured in this offense as much as we all think he should. But we all know he could take over a game at any point if need be.

We got a huge lead and ran the ball over and over again because we could. That won't be the case every game. North is a dangerous weapon. He's still in our arsenal. The coaches are aware of that I am sure.

But it's not like he's the only physical specimen on the team at WR anymore. We've got 4 or 5 players with similar NFL bodies now. Tons of options and they're all good.
 
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Catbone said:
Either way Butch will be under an enormous amount of pressure to beat Florida. He better have them prepared. I think he realizes he can't lose both.
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OU is a huge national game but lose it, beat Florida and win the SEC east and play for/ win SEC Championship, it'll be a distant memory.
 
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StoVol said:
but where they had to do such strenuous blocking that they were subbed every 2 plays.. that game
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Offenses are much different.

Pace being the biggest thing followed by the emphasis on edge blocking.

We will just have to agree to disagree that playing 8-10 guys is important. Cbj is on my side this time.

GBO
 
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Wickman said:
How many teams that HAVE won the Super Bowl HAVE had an elite WR. It's not an overblown position.
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Super Bow Champions (Year is regular season, not the year the team won in January):

1994: 49ers- Jerry Rice
1995: Cowboys- Michael Irvin
1996: Packers- Antonio Freeman
1997: Broncos- Rod Smith, Ed McCaffrey
1998: Broncos- Rod Smith, Ed McCaffrey
1999: Rams- Issac Bruce, Torry Holt
2000: Ravens
2001: Patriots- Troy Brown, Terry Glenn
2002: Bucs- Keyshawn Johnson, Keenan McCardell
2003: Patriots (Troy Brown washed up)
2004: Patriots (Troy Brown washed up)
2005: Steelers- Hines Ward
2006: Colts- Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne
2007: Giants- Plaxico Burress
2008: Steelers- Hines Ward
2009: Saints- Marques Colston
2010: Packers- Greg Jennings
2011: Giants- Victor Cruz
2012: Ravens
2013: Seahawks
2014: Patriots

Clearly not an overblown position, as all these players were pro bowlers the year the won, or the year before/after.
 
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BruinVol said:
Offenses are much different.

Pace being the biggest thing followed by the emphasis on edge blocking.

We will just have to agree to disagree that playing 8-10 guys is important. Cbj is on my side this time.

GBO
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I think it's important too. I think it gives us an edge. I'm not super worried about it.

I think in the 4th quarter of a close game you will see the best players staying on the field more though.
 
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I know you'll argue the last three years and say the game is changing, but anyone can see it is now a pas heavy league, and can make the argument receiver is an even more important position now. Obviously a lot of those teams had a good/great defense, but receiver IS NOT an overblown position.
 
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People complain about anything. If all we played was pig/north/ Pearson people would complain that we have 5 star talent in the bench in Williams, Jennings and Malone not playing. You don't want your WRs playing 87 plus snaps a game for 12 games. What has happened toward end of yr each year? WRs start wearing down. We need rotation. We didn't even have to throw the ball much so how does everyone already know this is bad already?

There were several plays that were read run/pass option we ran instead since we were dominating them on ground. We have a ton of plays that Dobbs makes the decision based on his key whether it's run or pass. There was no reason to throw out playbook at BG when they couldn't stop anything. We stopped ourselves when we didn score with 2 called back TDs that ended in missed FGs and a Malone drop on what would have been a 40 yard plus play that ended in a punt instead of another scoring drive.

Can we play a few games before complaining about an offense that technically scored 73 points if you count two TDs that got called back
 
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