Planned Parenthood Selling Human Body Parts

#826
#826
Septic said:
Bravo. :clapping:

This folks is how one properly conflates the use of fetal tissue in medical research with the arbitrary morality of abortion. I won't even get started on your inference that the baby's are being murdered specifically to harvest the tissue.

Get a grip on your feels before posting.
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Bravo. :no:

And this apparently is how folks don't know how to apply logic and reason, or comprehension skills, or just prefer to make things up to further an illogical point and poorly written statement. You're the one who referenced a dead fetus. How exactly did it die? This is a thread about abortions occurring at Planned Parenthood facilities... there was nothing arbitrary about my post.

On the other hand, please do get started regarding any inference I made about fetuses (not babies) being murdered specifically to harvest tissue. Talk about arbitrary.

Get a grip on reality before making crap up.
 
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#829
Mtntrout said:
It is living tissue. Something can be living and not be "alive," as it isn't an independent organism.
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True. A heart is living tissue. Kidney too. Is a fetus on part with other organs?
 
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#830
IBlvNTmWrk said:
Bravo. :no:

And this apparently is how folks don't know how to apply logic and reason, or comprehension skills, or just prefer to make things up to further an illogical point and poorly written statement. You're the one who referenced a dead fetus. How exactly did it die? This is a thread about abortions occurring at Planned Parenthood facilities... there was nothing arbitrary about my post.

On the other hand, please do get started regarding any inference I made about fetuses (not babies) being murdered specifically to harvest tissue. Talk about arbitrary.

Get a grip on reality before making crap up.
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Anything that is not living is dead. Rocks are dead. Dirt is dead.
 
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FLVOL69 said:
If it has a heartbeat it can feel pain.
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If I place a heart on a table, connect tubes to the valves, and pump fluid through, the heart will beat. If I then shock this isolated heart with electric probes it will react to the stimuli. It's not alive.

And that's about what we have from the science of fetuses are alive studies.
 
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therealUT said:
Anything that is not living is dead. Rocks are dead. Dirt is dead.
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Fetuses, rocks, and dirt. Hmmm... one of these is not like the other.

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therealUT said:
If I place a heart on a table, connect tubes to the valves, and pump fluid through, the heart will beat. If I then shock this isolated heart with electric probes it will react to the stimuli. It's not alive.

And that's about what we have from the science of fetuses are alive studies.
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Ok Dr Frankenstein..👍
 
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#836
McDad said:
True. A heart is living tissue. Kidney too. Is a fetus on part with other organs?
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It is to a human what an acorn is to a tree. If I eat a bag of pecans, no one is going to claim deforestation.

When you clean a fish and find it full of eggs, do you turn yourself in for going thousands over the limit or do you recognize that they are not fish?
 
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Mtntrout said:
if by "on part" you mean "akin to," not exactly. If an organ were a grape, it'd be a bunch of grapes. A bunch of grapes is not a grape vine.
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Living tissue under the discretion of the person who houses (for lack of a better term) that tissue?
 
#847
#847
It's not getting interesting. Living tissue inside the person (mother). Like an organ which is living tissue inside another person.
 
#849
#849
I'm trying to understand how you guys think. I believe a person should be able, as they currently are, to donate organs after death. Also believe people should be able to donate a kidney (while alive) to someone who needs it. I also believe a person should be able to sell their organs like they can in other countries.
If a fetus isn't a baby, isn't alive, isn't a person and is under the control of the mother, much like an organ which is living tissue but not alive. Should the mother have the ability to donate or sell the fetus whether its development has been terminated or not?
 
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#850
McDad said:
I'm trying to understand how you guys think. I believe a person should be able, as they currently are, to donate organs after death. Also believe people should be able to donate a kidney (while alive) to someone who needs it. I also believe a person should be able to sell their organs like they can in other countries.
If a fetus isn't a baby, isn't alive, isn't a person and is under the control of the mother, much like an organ which is living tissue but not alive. Should the mother have the ability to donate or sell the fetus whether its development has been terminated or not?
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Yes.
 
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