Big Charles Mosley will not be dismissed

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BruinVol said:
Which program has appeared more on espn breaking news the past 12months with embarrassing incidents??

Vols or dawgs??
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Which program's local media enjoys doing a hatchet job on the team whenever they can? How many times have UGA players been arrested? Hell their former AD got arrested a few years ago. UGA isn't the pillar of virtue if you're looking to make a point they historically have more off the field issues than UT does. If we're looking strictly at the last twelve months though maybe you have a point but it's pretty easy to structure a debate over a recent time window when it suits your point. Fact is over Richt's tenure, UGA has been one of the conference leaders in arrests.
 
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VolDango said:
That's why you have 16,000 posts and only 4,000 likes. What seems logical to you is clearly not the majority opinion most of the time.

Just drop it and let the coaches handle it. Your opinion on this matter means nothing.
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Guy wrote a farewell letter once...should've used a Forever stamp. :)
 
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BruinVol said:
Why can't he be publically suspended AND handled internally with physical punishment???

Seems very logical to me
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1. Publicly

2. You have no idea how he's actually being punished or what's best for Mosley and the team in this situation. You're also ignorant on the facts of the case itself. Do you really think you know more about this situation than the coaches?
 
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DaddyChad said:
Which program's local media enjoys doing a hatchet job on the team whenever they can? How many times have UGA players been arrested? Hell their former AD got arrested a few years ago. UGA isn't the pillar of virtue if you're looking to make a point they historically have more off the field issues than UT does. If we're looking strictly at the last twelve months though maybe you have a point but it's pretty easy to structure a debate over a recent time window when it suits your point. Fact is over Richt's tenure, UGA has been one of the conference leaders in arrests.
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Just give up. You can't argue with stupid.
 
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Unless he is cleared

He would have been suspended by the nfl and nearly every university in the country for game time amongst other punishment behind closed doors that's the precident that has been set by coaches everywherez

If cbj having a lighter stance on discipline than the rest of his peers doesn't bother you then fine but from my seat the only disturbing trend about cbj is discipline. Looks like the only thing that could even possibly keep him from huge success is the discipline of our kids off the field
 
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BruinVol said:
Unless he is cleared

He would have been suspended by the nfl and nearly every university in the country for game time amongst other punishment behind closed doors that's the precident that has been set by coaches everywherez

If cbj having a lighter stance on discipline than the rest of his peers doesn't bother you then fine but from my seat the only disturbing trend about cbj is discipline. Looks like the only thing that could even possibly keep him from huge success is the discipline of our kids off the field
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"Nearly every university"...you stopped watching football when you left huh? :w00t:
 
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VolDango said:
Agree to disagree. Drinking and driving is exponentially more dangerous to the individual and public at large. No comparison. Look at the statistics.
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I'm as big of a supporter of legalizing marijuana as there is out there and this post is absolute garbage. What statistics are you talking about? Driving drunk, high, on pills, there really is not difference. It's driving impaired, bottom line. If the blood test come back and it is determined he had THC in his system, I think Jones is making a poor decision here......his first IMO. Like another poster said, if this situation were happening at bama, barn, Florida, or Georgia, people would be up in arms that they were being way too lenient.
 
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BruinVol said:
Unless he is cleared

He would have been suspended by the nfl and nearly every university in the country for game time amongst other punishment behind closed doors that's the precident that has been set by coaches everywherez

If cbj having a lighter stance on discipline than the rest of his peers doesn't bother you then fine but from my seat the only disturbing trend about cbj is discipline. Looks like the only thing that could even possibly keep him from huge success is the discipline of our kids off the field
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Discipline?!

He didn't hesitate to separate problem players like Lane or Pig from the team when they didn't have their heads on straight. AJ and Michael Williams were suspended immediately for their transgressions So was Von. All signs point to charges being dropped for him and he still hasn't been reinstated. Thomas was suspended until his name was cleared. Sawyers was kicked off the team before he was even mentioned as a suspect for the 360 thing.


Yeah, we've had guys get into trouble. But so far Mosley is the situation you can argue that CBJ has been "lighter than his peers" in discipline. And, again, you have no idea of the facts of the case or how Mosley is being punished.


You really just need to give it a rest or go away. Everybody was happier when you weren't here.
 
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BearCat204 said:
I'm as big of a supporter of legalizing marijuana as there is out there and this post is absolute garbage. What statistics are you talking about? Driving drunk, high, on pills, there really is not difference. It's driving impaired, bottom line. If the blood test come back and it is determined he had THC in his system, I think Jones is making a poor decision here......his first IMO. Like another poster said, if this situation were happening at bama, barn, Florida, or Georgia, people would be up in arms that they were being way too lenient.
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Because they didn't suspend a guy who wasn't going to play anyway? I wouldn't be in that throng. Save my outrage for starters and/or contributors. :scare: Until then I have Netflix.
 
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butchna said:
Because they didn't suspend a guy who wasn't going to play anyway? I wouldn't be in that throng. Save my outrage for starters and/or contributors. :scare: Until then I have Netflix.
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Come on, the fact that he's a starter, contributor,or behind the 2deep, shouldn't matter IMO.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Come on, the fact that he's a starter, contributor,or behind the 2deep, shouldn't matter IMO.
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Suspending him is window dressing...for the righteous indignant. I trust Butch to discipline him in a way that'll get through that thick head of his. Let people squawk...I give a crap.
 
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BearCat204 said:
I'm as big of a supporter of legalizing marijuana as there is out there and this post is absolute garbage. What statistics are you talking about? Driving drunk, high, on pills, there really is not difference. It's driving impaired, bottom line. If the blood test come back and it is determined he had THC in his system, I think Jones is making a poor decision here......his first IMO. Like another poster said, if this situation were happening at bama, barn, Florida, or Georgia, people would be up in arms that they were being way too lenient.
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Jones hasn't made any kind of a poor decision. They have stated multiple times that they are still gathering facts. The facts are probably the result of the blood test. So, you think he should be suspended from all team activities when he may not be guilty? Maybe the coaches should be allowed to gather all the information before determining what kind of punishment may be due.
 
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BearCat204 said:
I'm as big of a supporter of legalizing marijuana as there is out there and this post is absolute garbage. What statistics are you talking about? Driving drunk, high, on pills, there really is not difference. It's driving impaired, bottom line. If the blood test come back and it is determined he had THC in his system, I think Jones is making a poor decision here......his first IMO. Like another poster said, if this situation were happening at bama, barn, Florida, or Georgia, people would be up in arms that they were being way too lenient.
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I'm not getting involved on the suspension parts, you all can have at that. As far as statistics for driving while high, I posted them from two different sources in his arrest thread.
 
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VersaceButch said:
Yeah I don't think anyone thought he would be dismissed from the team for driving high haha. I feel like a great number of people out there have done the same thing. Make him run stairs till his legs fall off and he pukes!!
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Just following Steve Spurriers' rules, have to get caught at least 3 times smoking pot to get canned. lol.
 
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I know it has been said before, but BruinVol, what is to say that Butch isn't appropriately punishing him? I have been an athlete in College and High School and there are punishments much worse than missing a game especially if you are not playing.

Suspending someone from a game is just window dressing as some have said. It doesn't make a statement unless it is someone with consistent playing time. I think the way Butch has handled himself in regards to discipline over the first two years gives me great confidience he has made the appropriate decision.
 
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BearCat204 said:
I'm as big of a supporter of legalizing marijuana as there is out there and this post is absolute garbage. What statistics are you talking about? Driving drunk, high, on pills, there really is not difference. It's driving impaired, bottom line. If the blood test come back and it is determined he had THC in his system, I think Jones is making a poor decision here......his first IMO. Like another poster said, if this situation were happening at bama, barn, Florida, or Georgia, people would be up in arms that they were being way too lenient.
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Google works. This is just one of many studies you can find on the matter. Rather than bashing my post, do some actual research.

Driving Stoned Is Much Safer Than Driving Drunk, Study Finds

I didn't say it's completely safe, but it's LESS dangerous (by far) than drinking and driving. You lose nearly all motor skills needed to drive at .10 BAC.
 
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Butch: "I thought you said you liked to get HIGH Big Mo?"
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I graduated last ear and I'd say 70% smoking and driving is a gross overstatement. Not even 70% of the students smoke regularly. I hung out with plenty of smokers (and joined in often enough).

Id say that probably somewhere around 60-70% have smoked at least once, but I'm pretty sure that's a standard average for university age students nowadays. I'd say maybe 30-50% (I know that's a wide range, but I'd be willing to bet the actual number is around there somewhere) smoke regularly or semi regularly. The biggest difference nowadays is that very, very few college students seem to view smoking as a big deal. Kids look at it similarly to drinking now. Even the friends I had who never smoked in their lives didn't seem to pass much judgment or mind being around it too much.


Either way, saying that 70% of UT students get high and drive is not at all accurate. Even among the regular smokers I knew, there were plenty who would never get behind the wheel when smoking or drinking (usually the ones who had bright futures among them). That's pretty much the easiest way to get caught and one slip up can seriously hurt your chances at future employment.

Edit: overstatement, not understatement.
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70% might be high but on campus it's crazy how many people smoke. Most that do smoke prefer smoking in their car. Either way my opinion is its legal in multiple states and its a lot safer than cigs or alcohol so it shouldn't be too big of a deal. But that's just my opinion. If only our fan base knew how many players smoke weed it would be hilarious. If we suspended every player that smokes we wouldn't have many players. It's just not a big deal anymore honestly. To the younger generation and outside of the Bible Belt it's the same thing as grabbing a beer with the guys/girls.
 
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On the bright side were in the top 25 and have the best coach we could ever ask for. Butch gets it. That's why guys are lining up to come play here.
 
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Kristy* said:
Jones hasn't made any kind of a poor decision. They have stated multiple times that they are still gathering facts. The facts are probably the result of the blood test. So, you think he should be suspended from all team activities when he may not be guilty? Maybe the coaches should be allowed to gather all the information before determining what kind of punishment may be due.
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Did you even bother to read my post?
 
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