'15 GA WR Preston Williams (UT Signee 2/4/15)

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The Breakerboy said:
This team won't need as much nonsense. Butch had to build the toughness up mentally. We've got to take care of players this year. Like Hurd in the Spring.
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I'm not of the opinion that toughness can actually be built. I think you're either tough or you're not. Not level of coaching or physical practices will make a kid who didn't want to hit to begin with magically change his mind.

The only thing you gain from tougher practices isn't making the team tougher, but finding out who on your team is tough and who will lay down when the time comes.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I'm not of the opinion that toughness can actually be built. I think you're either tough or you're not. Not level of coaching or physical practices will make a kid who didn't want to hit to begin with magically change his mind.

The only thing you gain from tougher practices isn't making the team tougher, but finding out who on your team is tough and who will lay down when the time comes.
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Maybe you can't "teach" toughness, but you can sure coach it. You have to lead some to the right mindset; to focus on the goal and disregard the things that are trying to derail you. I'm sure that can be coached.
 
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WarMachine said:
Maybe you can't "teach" toughness, but you can sure coach it. You have to lead some to the right mindset; to focus on the goal and disregard the things that are trying to derail you. I'm sure that can be coached.
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Our team need a standard to be set. Butch set it with last years group. The guys before had a loser mindset. Butch had to take this team over that hump mentally.
 
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WarMachine said:
Maybe you can't "teach" toughness, but you can sure coach it. You have to lead some to the right mindset; to focus on the goal and disregard the things that are trying to derail you. I'm sure that can be coached.
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Vol8188 said:
I'm not of the opinion that toughness can actually be built. I think you're either tough or you're not. Not level of coaching or physical practices will make a kid who didn't want to hit to begin with magically change his mind.

The only thing you gain from tougher practices isn't making the team tougher, but finding out who on your team is tough and who will lay down when the time comes.
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Toughness can definitely be conditioned.
 
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jspvol76 said:
Toughness can definitely be conditioned.
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I disagree. Some kids embrace contact, others shy away. The only thing you can find out about a kind through tougher practices is who will embrace and who will lay down on you. No level of coaching is going to take a kid with no heart or desire to be physical and change his mind.

You develop toughness by recruiting tough kids.
 
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WarMachine said:
Maybe you can't "teach" toughness, but you can sure coach it. You have to lead some to the right mindset; to focus on the goal and disregard the things that are trying to derail you. I'm sure that can be coached.
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I don't see toughness of a product of focusing on what's important and ignoring the rest. I see toughness as a matter of heart and desire. Some kids have a ton of heart and will take on anyone. Other kids are far too willing to bow down.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I disagree. Some kids embrace contact, others shy away. The only thing you can find out about a kind through tougher practices is who will embrace and who will lay down on you. No level of coaching is going to take a kid with no heart or desire to be physical and change his mind.

You develop toughness by recruiting tough kids.
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Once again, this is wrong. Sure, some kids never embrace it. However, for some they just need a trigger or sustained build up to bring out the toughness. I can actually speak to this. My first year of football, I was lazy, out of shape, and didn't like the contact. I actually quit after the first week. My dad and brother wouldn't let me forget about it either. So, that summer I started getting into shape, doing sit ups, push ups, and sprints every day. I tried out again the following year, and was once again reminded by the other players of how I quit the season before. At this point, I still didn't like the contact, and was still hesitant in tackling drills. Until one day, one of my good friends starting joking on me just to get some laughs from the other guys. The coach happened to line us up that afternoon in one on ones. When we lined down, I looked up at him with a rage I hadn't felt before. We ended up going against each other three times in a row because the HC couldn't believe his starting DT was getting thrown to the ground by a third stringer. Four years later I ended up being all state in TN, and it wasn't because I was soft.
 
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jspvol76 said:
Once again, this is wrong. Sure, some kids never embrace it. However, for some they just need a trigger or sustained build up to bring out the toughness. I can actually speak to this. My first year of football, I was lazy, out of shape, and didn't like the contact. I actually quit after the first week. My dad and brother wouldn't let me forget about it either. So, that summer I started getting into shape, doing sit ups, push ups, and sprints every day. I tried out again the following year, and was once again reminded by the other players of how I quit the season before. At this point, I still didn't like the contact, and was still hesitant in tackling drills. Until one day, one of my good friends starting joking on me just to get some laughs from the other guys. The coach happened to line us up that afternoon in one on ones. When we lined down, I looked up at him with a rage I hadn't felt before. We ended up going against each other three times in a row because the HC couldn't believe his starting DT was getting thrown to the ground by a third stringer. Four years later I ended up being all state in TN, and it wasn't because I was soft.
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Agreed... sometimes it just clicks. Bravo.
 
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WarMachine said:
He was adamant on twitter that he would not redshirt. We'll see.
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He is the type of personality that a redshirt pisses him off and could cause a problem. The only reason would have been if he was behind recovery but he is obviously way ahead of schedule and should be ready for season opener. He wouldn't be here for 5 yrs anyway so might as well take advantage of the yrs he is here.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I don't see toughness of a product of focusing on what's important and ignoring the rest. I see toughness as a matter of heart and desire. Some kids have a ton of heart and will take on anyone. Other kids are far too willing to bow down.
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And some kids need it brought out of them, whether by a deep hatred,embarrassment,etc... When it clicks and they finally understand, they never knew the depth they could reach down to tough out minor pain,injuries, or just plain fatigue... It can be taught, some kids are willing to stick it out to find out, others are the ones you seeing on the transfer list
 
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Go Fight Win said:
I think Butch realized how physical practice was last year and is going to tone the physicality down a little this year.

Lot of players got injured and played through it
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Sure but we had a record number of concussions last year that no one really heard about.

All from practice
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I forgot the name of that D3 coach who has won multiple national championships with his team that doesn't hit in practice... His squads focus on preparation and fundamentals over everything else. I know that's very radical and not practical for SEC ball, but the reason he does it makes sense and the system works in D3 ball. The less abuse in practice, the less chance of injury, the more chance your star players are ready to go on Saturday and fresh at that. The D3 coach started doing it because he had limited number of players on his squad and his star players kept getting hurt. Implementing the no-hit policy kept everyone fresh, the team started winning and it has since become the program's #1 trademark.

I think it would be a wise to take a note from a program like that. Maybe we need to rework our practice system to take out the redundant, unnecessary hits and instead focus more on the fundamentals and mental readiness aspect of the game. This way our players get hurt less in practice and we have less chance of forcing an unnecessary redshirt or two, among other things.
 
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I've been waiting for Croom to have a break out season and use his size to consistently dominate...but it just hasn't happened. To be honest...I expect Williams to have a bigger impact, even though he is a true freshman. I don't think he'll be used any less than Malone was, last year.
 
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jspvol76 said:
Once again, this is wrong. Sure, some kids never embrace it. However, for some they just need a trigger or sustained build up to bring out the toughness. I can actually speak to this. My first year of football, I was lazy, out of shape, and didn't like the contact. I actually quit after the first week. My dad and brother wouldn't let me forget about it either. So, that summer I started getting into shape, doing sit ups, push ups, and sprints every day. I tried out again the following year, and was once again reminded by the other players of how I quit the season before. At this point, I still didn't like the contact, and was still hesitant in tackling drills. Until one day, one of my good friends starting joking on me just to get some laughs from the other guys. The coach happened to line us up that afternoon in one on ones. When we lined down, I looked up at him with a rage I hadn't felt before. We ended up going against each other three times in a row because the HC couldn't believe his starting DT was getting thrown to the ground by a third stringer. Four years later I ended up being all state in TN, and it wasn't because I was soft.
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