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Dr Dread said:
This appears to be a case of a cop being caught in an extremely difficult situation. Once he pulled the car over for running the red light (which he was correct in doing), his every move was guaranteed to be criticized unless the guy lived. Not fair to the officer.
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Which video is that?
 
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volbeast33 said:
The guy was told to stop and raise his hands....his two friends complied and were not shot. The one that was, walked away with is hand I his waist band and turned pulling hi hand out of his pants. The cop had every right to believe a gun was involved. A very tragic and disturbing situation all the way around.
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He was in fact told to raise his hands...while his hands were in his waist band. At that point, how could he comply without getting shot? No way to raise his hands without removing them from his waistband. Also, this appears to be yet another cop playing for the camera. He immediately starts preparing his defense by constantly stating that the guy was reaching for something. No where in the video do I see anything to support that. The guy had his hands in his waistband when he turned around. Only thing he did after that was remove his hands, which he would have to do to comply with the officer's order to raise his hands. I see nothing in the video that could be termed as reaching.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Which video is that?
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I was refering to the incident were the guy died of an athsma attack after the officer pulled his car over for running a red light. Can't really blame the cop on this one. Can't say that if the cop had handled it any other way it would've made a difference. Just an unfortunate situation.
 
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Dr Dread said:
He was in fact told to raise his hands...while his hands were in his waist band. At that point, how could he comply without getting shot? No way to raise his hands without removing them from his waistband. Also, this appears to be yet another cop playing for the camera. He immediately starts preparing his defense by constantly stating that the guy was reaching for something. No where in the video do I see anything to support that. The guy had his hands in his waistband when he turned around. Only thing he did after that was remove his hands, which he would have to do to comply with the officer's order to raise his hands. I see nothing in the video that could be termed as reaching.
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Yep. That whole "what were you reaching for, buddy" was rehearsed. Cops rehearse that and the "I was in fear for my life" to protect themselves. I speak from experience with friends in law enforcement. Now, I don't know that is something that is bad, but it does happen.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Please explain why you say the shooting was justified.
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Based on the information the cop was given, he believed one of the three was armed. When the only one not complying with their command to put their hands up also had his hand wrist deep in his pants he automatically assumed he was the one. To make matters worse he pulls up his shirt as if he's creating clearance for the removal of his right hand right after he said "nah fool"..... That's basically what the DA said..... It's believable.... And probably in the DA's mind ..... Almost impossible to prove it wasn't justified.
Something no one has mentioned that I found disturbing was the fact that the other cop didn't have his camera on. If he would have there would have been a better view of the victim.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Based on the information the cop was given, he believed one of the three was armed. When the only one not complying with their command to put their hands up also had his hand wrist deep in his pants he automatically assumed he was the one. To make matters worse he pulls up his shirt as if he's creating clearance for the removal of his right hand right after he said "nah fool"..... That's basically what the DA said..... It's believable.... And probably in the DA's mind ..... Almost impossible to prove it wasn't justified.
Something no one has mentioned that I found disturbing was the fact that the other cop didn't have his camera on. If he would have there would have been a better view of the victim.
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The cop had the gun out right after getting out of the car. As usual, the cop escalated the situation to the point that someone lost their life. Murder is murder. But as usual, the cop got away with it.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Something no one has mentioned that I found disturbing was the fact that the other cop didn't have his camera on. If he would have there would have been a better view of the victim.
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I was wondering the same and glad someone else brought it up. I choose not to, as I didn't feel like having my intelligence questioned for simply demanding accountability.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
He was told by dispatch that one of them was armed.
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Yes. So he shows up by himself. It takes no less than 3 cops to tell me my tail light is out.

He then gets out of the cruiser and draws his gun on the guy. He has no idea whether this guy has broken any law.

He tells the guy to stop and turn around.

He then gives the guy an order that automatically creates this perceived threat you speak of.

Then he kills him.

Great policing.

He should've been charged and sent to prison.
 
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Dr Dread said:
Yes. So he shows up by himself. It takes no less than 3 cops to tell me my tail light is out.

He then gets out of the cruiser and draws his gun on the guy. He has no idea whether this guy has broken any law.

He tells the guy to stop and turn around.

He then gives the guy an order that automatically creates this perceived threat you speak of.

Then he kills him.

Great policing.

He should've been charged and sent to prison.
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I thought the guy was facing the cop and when the cop gave the order.... He turned and started walking away....
 
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