Andrew Harrison - Post Game

#51
#51
So one kid can say "F you ni***" and it's no big deal, nothing to see here. Another can say the same thing and all hell should've rightfully broken loose?

Yes. Exactly. Black people can say the N word, white people cant. I thought this was common knowledge. Its often used as a replacement for the word "dude." Thats why when when they say it, it isnt racially charged. Even if it is directed toward a white person, it still isnt racially charged. If he was actually being racial then he would have called him cracker or honky.
 
#52
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Truth be told, Kamisky most likely took it as a compliment knowing that he had frustrated them to that degree. Basketball players are they're own culture.
 
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So one kid can say "F you ni***" and it's no big deal, nothing to see here. Another can say the same thing and all hell should've rightfully broken loose? Btw, I can assure you absolutely nothing would've been different if Harrison wouldve said "F that cracker/honkey/white boy"....nothing. And you know it.

I don't think cracker/honkey/white boy have the same connotation as the n-word. That's the difference. Go to a group of black guys on a college campus, and within a few sentences, you'll probably hear the n-word used freely. I've never used it, but I have white friends that use it towards black people, and vice versa. It's a fine line to walk, but a lot of young people have no problem using it they are white/black/asian/hispanic etc etc.
 
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Yes. Exactly. Black people can say the N word, white people cant. I thought this was common knowledge. Its often used as a replacement for the word "dude." Thats why when when they say it, it isnt racially charged. Even if it is directed toward a white person, it still isnt racially charged. If he was actually being racial then he would have called him cracker or honky.

What makes it insane to me is the flippant use of such a demeaning word.
 
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#55
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What if he said something to the effect of "That n got game man."

See the compliment?
 
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What makes it insane to me is the flippant use of such a demeaning word.

I'm not a fan of anyone using the word, either, but white society has sort of lost out on their ability to dictate to black people the use and perception of the n-word.
 
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I'm not a fan of anyone using the word, either, but white society has sort of lost out on their ability to dictate to black people the use and perception of the n-word.

Agreed. It's comical when people play the "but, but what if a white guy said that?!" card.
 
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I'm not a fan of anyone using the word, either, but white society has sort of lost out on their ability to dictate to black people the use and perception of the n-word.

I don't think white society is trying to dictate the use of this word to black people. However, it would make sense to me if we wish for the word to disappear from our vocabulary we should cease to use it. Especially in such a flippant way.
 
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Yes. Exactly. Black people can say the N word, white people cant. I thought this was common knowledge. Its often used as a replacement for the word "dude." Thats why when when they say it, it isnt racially charged. Even if it is directed toward a white person, it still isnt racially charged. If he was actually being racial then he would have called him cracker or honky.

How about the "F" part? No worries there either?

And I have zero doubt, that if he'd have said cracker or honky or white boy, or whatever he wanted, it would've been brushed off too. He could've said whatever he wanted there and it would've gotten the same "meh" response. Kaminsky on ther hand would've gotten no such pass even he had only said "F Harrison" without the slur. He would've been called racist and everything else under the sun and we all know it. It just is what it is.
 
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I look at it as more of a lack of class and being disrespectful, than being racially motivated. Sure the kid was disappointed, but it doesn't take much common sense to know what the microphone in front of you is there for. Either way, nothing will come of it. Lord forbid the thought of Kaminsky making the comment, though.
 
#65
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Like it or not, the F part is as much a part of the culture as the N part. Just part of the vernacular. Unguarded moment of frustration that should have been left to the locker room.


How about the "F" part? No worries there either?

And I have zero doubt, that if he'd have said cracker or honky or white boy, or whatever he wanted, it would've been brushed off too. He could've said whatever he wanted there and it would've gotten the same "meh" response. Kaminsky on ther hand would've gotten no such pass even he had only said "F Harrison" without the slur. He would've been called racist and everything else under the sun and we all know it. It just is what it is.
 
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How about the "F" part? No worries there either?

And I have zero doubt, that if he'd have said cracker or honky or white boy, or whatever he wanted, it would've been brushed off too. He could've said whatever he wanted there and it would've gotten the same "meh" response. Kaminsky on ther hand would've gotten no such pass even he had only said "F Harrison" without the slur. He would've been called racist and everything else under the sun and we all know it. It just is what it is.

Tell that to Hugh Douglas, if you think black people get a free pass to say anything.
 
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How about the "F" part? No worries there either?

And I have zero doubt, that if he'd have said cracker or honky or white boy, or whatever he wanted, it would've been brushed off too. He could've said whatever he wanted there and it would've gotten the same "meh" response. Kaminsky on ther hand would've gotten no such pass even he had only said "F Harrison" without the slur. He would've been called racist and everything else under the sun and we all know it. It just is what it is.

because he's white! The N-word is one of the most hated words in the english language and has a terrible history behind it. If this had been a white guy, he would have been called a racist and probably rightfully so. But black people use it now.
 
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If Kaminsky had been caught saying the exact same thing about Harrison, he'd be suspended for tonight's game, assuming that they didn't just make Wisconsin forfeit altogether. No apology would be good enough.

There would be wall to wall discussions and "Special Reports" running on ESPN pre-empting regularly scheduled programming. The discussion would focus on how Wisconsin's basketball program should be punished/sanctioned and how many scholarships they should forfeit. Bo Ryan would be brought into it, they'd question his leadership and attempt to uncover anything they could on him that might explain the racist culture that he fosters there. They would also attempt to turn Kaminsky's world upside down and they would be questioning which of the other "white boys" on Wisconsin's team were racist...assuming they didn't just declare they all were.

Additionally, the University of Wisconsin's AD, Chancellor and President would have already issued public statements condemning Frank Kaminsky and his unforgivable intentionally racist and derisive statements. Also, Kaminsky's professional career would very much be in jeopardy.

Oh yeah, Obama, Holder, Sharpton, et al would be on the warpath vs the state of Wisconsin, Governor Scott Walker, the University and Kaminsky with mob-inciting comments. They would also have their rent-mobs in both Indianapolis and
Madison wreaking havoc, burning things and threatening complete civil unrest in both cities.

I'm certain I've omitted other "strategies" that all the media and politicians would have already put in motion, but make no mistake, everything I just wrote, at a minimum, would have/be happening.

I agree.
 
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#70
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Yeah with Harrison it's almost instantly dismissed, as he's just a "kid".

Kaminsky's (and this is not an exaggeration in the least) life would be completely ruined. He would instantly turn into the most disliked person in America (Once again... Not an exaggeratin)

In fact… I actually wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Kaminsky was coached/advised by the University in how he needed to respond. I'm sure the race baiters were patiently awaiting his response in hopes they could find a way to turn it around on him. If he would've did anything besides just dismiss it, four instance respond with any type of verbal retaliation, he instantly would've become the bad guy in the story.

Nailed it. He wouldn't be able to land on an NBA roster as he would be completely on an Island seeing as almost entire league is black.
 
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#72
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Its all wrong. What I know for a fact is this, I'm 39 years old, and if my parents heard me say either of those words on TV, they'd drive to wherever I was and still beat my butt.
 
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Nailed it. He wouldn't be able to land on an NBA roster as he would be completely on an Island seeing as almost entire league is black.

So, no one wants to address the fact that Riley Cooper used and specifically attacked a black guy with that word, yet still has a job, was not suspended and Al Sharpton made no marches in downtown Philly?
 
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So, no one wants to address the fact that Riley Cooper used and specifically attacked a black guy with that word, yet still has a job, was not suspended and Al Sharpton made no marches in downtown Philly?

Way different situation in my opinion, but had some of his black teammates not come to his defense the outcome would likely been different.
 
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