Coaches Convention and more Doug Matthews

#27
#27
Lexvol said:
Well, for me the entire process obviously begins and ends with Fulmer and the amount of control he is willing to relinquish to get the right guy.

Initially his verbage was on the money. His excitement over the prospects of "mixing things up" on the hill had me excited as well. In his more recent interviews he seems to be regressing a bit. In other words, I fear that the right person for the job is the brilliant coordinator who is willing to do everything Fulmer would do in every situation......

I hope I don't sound short sighted. Initially, for some reason I thought Fulmer might loosen the reigns a bit. With Spence turning down offer number two, I fear that instead of becoming more introspective as to why that might be happening, CPF will circle the wagons and find a "yes" man.

CPF is in a precarious spot. It is not as easy as it looks. By keeping his post, he has earned the right to make this decision.
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I assume the GVX article is the reason you sense a turn.... Granted it's tone is a bit more reticent, but the fact that he must get this right keeps the prospects good that he winds up making an acceptable decision.

He now must land one of these outside candidates. Anything less would be a tacit admission that he couldn't get the job done.
 
#29
#29
rexvol said:
I think you hit the nail on the head, Lex, Phil's scared guys off during the interviews. Just look at Cignitti and Spence. I also find it disheartening that Phil went back to Spence and upprd the ante, only to be rebuffed. Why does Phil have to beg a Clemson coach to come to the Hill?
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It is purely speculation like everything else involving the "great OC search of 2008", but that fact alone is disheartening. Even though I am not completely sold on Spence's ability to do the job.
 
#30
#30
orange+white=heaven said:
I assume the GVX article is the reason you sense a turn.... Granted it's tone is a bit more reticent, but the fact that he must get this right keeps the prospects good that he winds up making an acceptable decision.

He now must land one of these outside candidates. Anything less would be atacit admission that he couldn't get the job done.
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More to the point the fact that CPF is even talking about calling his own plays is a bit scary to me. That is not the voice of someone who is looking for help from the "outside".

I too thought he had put himself into a position that he had to land an outside candidate. Now it appears that he may be trying to soften that landing if he doesn't.
 
#31
#31
volsforever27 said:
I don't understand why we're not in the running for more D-line prospects.. if we're in the running for anybody, I haven't heard about it. You think these players would be drooling over the prospect of playing here... anybody with size and speed is probably going to get some playing time right away.
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I think it may have something to do with the overall perception of tennessee football right now. We've just done absolutely nothing for so long its starting to take it's toll nation wide. I do know that our neighbors down to the south of us have no problem picking up linemen. In fact if you look at bama's last two classes they're loaded with d-line talent and it makes me sick. I don't care what anyone says were not recruiting as good as we used to. It has us in this percarius position of being way to thin on the d-line quality and depth are hurting really bad.
 
#32
#32
Coaches Assn

If you look at the convention schedule you will see:

1. Chavis is speaking.
2. Roper is speaking.
3. There is a PRIVATE UT Meeting & Etc.
and etl.
 
#33
#33
I have to admit, I am getting a little nervous about this now. I wasn't until I heard talk that he had made another offer to Spence, who I wasn't completely sold on to begin with anyway, but just the fact that he did that makes me wonder. BTW, not to say he would be a good candidate, but just wondering has Daryl Dickey been mentioned? He has time as QB coach, OC and now head coach. I just don't know alot about him, his stats or his philosophy. just wondering. I gotta tell ya guys, I hope that CPF is making alot more progress than it appears.
 
#34
#34
rexvol said:
thank you....do you think Pete Carroll quits recruiting QBs because he has a couple of blue chippers sitiing on the sideline? If Phil really said that, then I dont know what to say, we'd better average 42 points a game next year. This kind of comment helps me to understand why we always have a great recruiting year followed by a mediocre one.
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I actually heard Doug talking about the points freak made on the radio Sunday morning; he added that this is also a recruiting dead period. I am not sure when it’s over, but there is no recruiting for the next week or so at least.
Then he said that Phil is pretty "loaded" offensively.
We have seen that comment before. . . . I will wait patiently to see what we do with such a stacked team next year. I really hope they exceed my already high expectations; especially with talk like this.
 
#35
#35
rexvol said:
thank you....do you think Pete Carroll quits recruiting QBs because he has a couple of blue chippers sitiing on the sideline? If Phil really said that, then I dont know what to say, we'd better average 42 points a game next year. This kind of comment helps me to understand why we always have a great recruiting year followed by a mediocre one.
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Well......what QBs has USC taken in the last two classes? Just being knit-picky. We supposedly have some commitments that have not been made publicly. That is why he says he likes where we are with offensive recruiting. On a side note, talked to a coach in the know and Wilks just recieved his ACT score the other day and is fully qualified. He is also not in the least bit worried about the coaching situation.
 
#37
#37
therickbol said:
Well......what QBs has USC taken in the last two classes? Just being knit-picky. We supposedly have some commitments that have not been made publicly. That is why he says he likes where we are with offensive recruiting. On a side note, talked to a coach in the know and Wilks just recieved his ACT score the other day and is fully qualified. He is also not in the least bit worried about the coaching situation.
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they didnt hesitate to take Mustain
 
#38
#38
I heard on the radio this morning that Tennessee Tech's head coach Watson Brown was seen in a meeting with Fulmer. I doubt that this is any big news, because people close to Fulmer said that he is not a candidate but why else would they be meeting so close to a coaching opening?
 
#40
#40
Smokeys Pal said:
I heard on the radio this morning that Tennessee Tech's head coach Watson Brown was seen in a meeting with Fulmer. I doubt that this is any big news, because people close to Fulmer said that he is not a candidate but why else would they be meeting so close to a coaching opening?
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To discuss the impact of the Iowa Caucus. Obviously.
 
#42
#42
DC Vol said:
Ummm, Mark Sanchez - Football Recruiting

Top of his class in 2005. They'll have another top QB in 2009 too, probably in this guy:
Matt Barkley - Football Recruiting

So who really cares? They will always have "the guy" there.
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Nice job of answering as if you didnt even read my question. '06 and '07 USC did not recruit a big time QB because of the current crop of QBs that they already had on campus. Since they have not gotten one in the last two years they are now in great shape with Barkley. That was the point. He made a statement that Carroll would go after a big time QB no matter who he had on campus. That is not true. Was just pointing that out.
 
#43
#43
and again I will state that Carroll certainly rolled out the red carpet for Mustain last year.
 
#44
#44
Arclight said:
Coaches Assn

If you look at the convention schedule you will see:

1. Chavis is speaking.
2. Roper is speaking.
3. There is a PRIVATE UT Meeting & Etc.
and etl.
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Interesting......I notice they also have an AA meeting scheduled.

They also have Rich Rod still with WV listed.
 
#46
#46
rexvol said:
I think you hit the nail on the head, Lex, Phil's scared guys off during the interviews. Just look at Cignitti and Spence. I also find it disheartening that Phil went back to Spence and upprd the ante, only to be rebuffed. Why does Phil have to beg a Clemson coach to come to the Hill?
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Maybe... just maybe... he really liked the guy and it has nothing to do with anything more than making sure money wasn't the obstacle.

As for scaring them off... That's doubtful if they have any gumption at all. The one guy has a situation he likes, got a raise, and had turned down other jobs before. The other guy has lived the better part of the last 8 years in the Bay area.

Judging from a general article I read about what coaches look at in taking jobs... unrealistic fan expectations when compared to Cal could have had just as much to do with Cignetti's decision as CPF or anything else.

When you have so many posters on a board like this ready to lynch a coach that has a 70%+ win percentage and a NC to his credit... You have to figure that the pressure would be immense and the margin for error very small.
 
#47
#47
You know, looking at the list of speakers and topics makes the football junkie in me drool. I wonder if a lot of innovative ideas are offered up or if it's just the same (relatively) stuff every year. I did notice that in many cases the speaker is a timley choice for the subject.
 
#49
#49
I completely disagree. I think Spence was primed to move on from Clemson until he actually met with Phil. I think he then realized that Phil's going to keep a tight leash on the next OC. I also think Phil stated that the new OC would have very little input in the other coaching hires. Frank and Rob listened and then ran for the hills. Let's face it, our OC just got a head coaching position, so it's possible for this job to lead to bigger and better things. Why wouldnt you take it? I'll tell you why, Phil's micromanagement.
 
#50
#50
therickbol said:
Nice job of answering as if you didnt even read my question. '06 and '07 USC did not recruit a big time QB because of the current crop of QBs that they already had on campus. Since they have not gotten one in the last two years they are now in great shape with Barkley. That was the point. He made a statement that Carroll would go after a big time QB no matter who he had on campus. That is not true. Was just pointing that out.
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He went after Tebow in 06:
Tim Tebow - Football Recruiting

And Jimmy Clausen in 07:
Jimmy Clausen - Football Recruiting

And I'm just pointing that out.
 
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