The beauty of science

#79
#79
So liberals don't like science because they don't understand theology?

That makes sense.

When math and statistics cant solve it, yes

BTW, you never answered. Ever study greek mythology? Theology or read anything from Thomas Aquinas?
 
#81
#81
This part is particularly interesting:



So while there was a "big bang", the universe was either in a infinite static phase before, or was contracting from another expanded state. The equations, in an attempt to reconcile quantum and relativity, negate the idea of a "beginning" in the linear time sense.

They are long way away from such a reconciliation. These new equations don't change that in any meaningful way.

As for the eternal return, there is a lot of evidence out there against it. Our understanding of dark matter and dark energy, which admittedly is pretty scant, would probably be the driver of changing our understanding there.
 
#82
#82
Do you honestly believe such a large group as "liberals" are all not religious? Most of them are.

Keep pushing partial birth abortions and forcing Churches to pay for birth control and abortions and you will see that support dry up. The trend certainly isn't in your favor. Hispanics are not going to support people who push partial birth abortions.
 
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Keep pushing partial birth abortions and forcing Churches to pay for birth control and abortions and you will see that support dry up. The trend certainly isn't in your favor. Hispanics are not going to support people who push partial birth abortions.

Way to take a science and theological discussion about the origin of the universe/cosmos and inject abortion into it unnecessarily. Kudos.
 
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Keep pushing partial birth abortions and forcing Churches to pay for birth control and abortions and you will see that support dry up. The trend certainly isn't in your favor. Hispanics are not going to support people who push partial birth abortions.

What is this trend of which you speak?
 
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They are long way away from such a reconciliation. These new equations don't change that in any meaningful way.

As for the eternal return, there is a lot of evidence out there against it. Our understanding of dark matter and dark energy, which admittedly is pretty scant, would probably be the driver of changing our understanding there.


Once dark matter/energy is understood, everything is going to change.

It is something I hope to see in my lifetime.
 
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Do you honestly believe such a large group as "liberals" are all not religious? Most of them are.

Not true. I know for a fact that there are only two groups of people in this world: 1) people who agree with me on everything and 2) people who disagree with me on everything.
 
#93
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Not true. I know for a fact that there are only two groups of people in this world: 1) people who agree with me on everything and 2) people who disagree with me on everything.

I'm gonna need evidence of the existence of the first group
 
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#94
Once dark matter/energy is understood, everything is going to change.

It is something I hope to see in my lifetime.

I wouldn't count on it. I think it is going to be a long process of discovery unless some new technology induces a paradigm shift.

Honestly, we are really to the point of maximizing our current scientific paradigm on a lot of fronts; not data wise, but truly revolutionary discoveries.
 
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I wouldn't count on it. I think it is going to be a long process of discovery unless some new technology induces a paradigm shift.

Honestly, we are really to the point of maximizing our current scientific paradigm on a lot of fronts; not data wise, but truly revolutionary discoveries.

Just damn. PKT and I agree on something. I am going to faint.
 
I wonder what happened to gcb?
There have been a lot of people on this forum that have come and gone over the years. I think some die, some get sick and some find a new life. Some may just become bored. If you look at it in the broader sense of things people move on through your life just like people you work with, they come and go.
 
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