Crompton

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CovVol said:
:lolabove:


We have unanimously decided that BJ Coleman should be the starting QB at Tennessee next year because he can throw a damn good warm-up ball.
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I wish CPF had seen the darts I threw in intramural flag football. What might have been...:cray:
 
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Simma Down Now 817.

It's no secret I'm not sold on Crompton. But i think he does have a very big edge heading into the spring just because of his experience both in starting two games and being around the program longer. If Coleman or Stephens steps up, Fulmer and the new OC will start them.
 
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volfanbill said:
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Simma Down Now 817.

It's no secret I'm not sold on Crompton. But i think he does have a very big edge heading into the spring just because of his experience both in starting two games and being around the program longer. If Coleman or Stephens steps up, Fulmer and the new OC will start them.
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You obviously didn't read through this thing. What I actually said has been completely ignored. I simply said I think BJC is our best option based on various factors. I never said JC wasn't talented, didn't have a head start, didn't have more and better experience, or anything like that.

This all came out of me saying that from what I've seen of BOTH player's HS film, practice and warmups, I think BJ has better tools. The rest of this thread is reading comprehension and nothing else.
 
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GoVols817 said:
You obviously didn't read through this thing. What I actually said has been completely ignored. I simply said I think BJC is our best option based on various factors. I never said JC wasn't talented, didn't have a head start, didn't have more and better experience, or anything like that.

This all came out of me saying that from what I've seen of BOTH player's HS film, practice and warmups, I think BJ has better tools. The rest of this thread is reading comprehension and nothing else.
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i've gone through the whole thread. What I will say is this, Crompton's HS films were very very good. Coleman also had better talent around him. Crompton can scramble, can even run if he needs to, but is much more comfortable in the pocket than most pure running qbs.
 
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The staff will start whomever the best QB is coming away from spring practice. I've said it before, but if that is not Crompton he is a huge recruiting bust.
 
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it's not a bust, it just means we have a lot of qb talent within the program. if he gets out there and falls flat on his face, you might have an argument.
 
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GAVol said:
I don't want to work that hard. Just trust in the fact that I'm right. :p
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I would, except I know for a fact that you aren't. If Peyton had torn his ACL, JC would've come in for that game, but the following week, TM would have been getting snaps. That's why he got the 2nd team work and not JC, unless you are talking about 2nd team WR.
 
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TreeGreen said:
The staff will start whomever the best QB is coming away from spring practice. I've said it before, but if that is not Crompton he is a huge recruiting bust.
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no more a bust than the guy ranked ahead of him coming out
 
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GAVol said:
I think I remember that he got hurt on the 7th play of the opening drive against UCLA. It was one of the saddest things I've ever seen.
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That's absolutely true. In spite of competing for the same position, Heath and his family liked Jerry.
 
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rockytophigh said:
He's local to Chattanooga which was my point. People from there are often more exposed to a local kid and support him. That's fine until you start bashing another kid because the local one you like better (because you sure haven't seen him play in college). I find it rediculous at best and then I get accused of peeing on my leg. Geez, just an angry poster I guess. Anyways, I'm from Nashville and I enjoy watching kids like John Henderson, Cory Fleming, etc. etc. etc. do well at UT and beyond.....but not to the point I start bashing other players because my local kid played well in high school....it's just inane at best....:unsure:
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Sorry I misunderstood you.

Yeah, 817 seems to be denying what would be a natural inclination for any of us. I'm originally from western NC and like to see kids from there do well... but even though at this point he has a leg up, I'm not declaring JC the best or anything like that. If BJ or Nick beat him out in the spring or fall then that's fine by me. In fact, I hope the competition is clean but intense and produces someone who can handle the pressure.

That is an absolute necessity if they are going to be ready to beat UF.
 
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GoVols817 said:
I would, except I know for a fact that you aren't. If Peyton had torn his ACL, JC would've come in for that game, but the following week, TM would have been getting snaps. That's why he got the 2nd team work and not JC, unless you are talking about 2nd team WR.
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So the backup QB was Copeland, but the 2nd team QB was Tee Martin? :eek:k:

Let's just agree to have differing memories.
 
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GAVol said:
So the backup QB was Copeland, but the 2nd team QB was Tee Martin? :eek:k:

Let's just agree to have differing memories.
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No, I'm saying JC was the emergency QB that would've come in immediately in a game, but the next game TM would be the starter. Otherwise, JC would've gotten the mop up duty, he didn't.
 
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The only reason I call Crompton a recruiting bust if he fails is because he was the only QB we took that year. We told him he would be it. On the other hand, that won't make a difference if Coleman turns out to be the superman many people here think he is since he'd be here longer.
 
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GoVols817 said:
No, I'm saying JC was the emergency QB that would've come in immediately in a game, but the next game TM would be the starter. Otherwise, JC would've gotten the mop up duty, he didn't.
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What if PM broke his leg instead of tearing his ACL, who would have come in the game then?
 
#121
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GoVols817 said:
No, I'm saying JC was the emergency QB that would've come in immediately in a game, but the next game TM would be the starter. Otherwise, JC would've gotten the mop up duty, he didn't.
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Like I said . . . We'll just agree to have different recollections. I really don't remember anybody other than Copeland getting snaps behind Manning in 1996.

I can't understand why the "emergency" guy would be different from the "mop up" guy. Maybe somebody else can remember.
 
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GAVol said:
Like I said . . . We'll just agree to have different recollections. I really don't remember anybody other than Copeland getting snaps behind Manning in 1996.

I can't understand why the "emergency" guy would be different from the "mop up" guy. Maybe somebody else can remember.
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There's also a "who starts next week" guy who could be someone else, theoretically. Apparently, it all depends on how well they throw it during warm ups as to who gets assigned which roles.
 
#123
#123
GoVols817 said:
You obviously didn't read through this thing. What I actually said has been completely ignored. I simply said I think BJC is our best option based on various factors.
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He probably did read through it. I summarized it a few posts back if he didn't.

Based on your having seen BJ in HS but not JC, JC's stumbles in his first action against REAL LIVE college competition, and how they look subjectively to you in warmups... you've decided that BJ should be the starter. You reject the expertise of people who evaluated them both as HS players. You reject JC's awards at the Army AA as proof of his talent compared to BJ.

... And of course you reject that you are biased at all even though you are from Chatt and saw BJ in HS but not JC.

The ONLY... ONLY... apples to apples thing you offered was your subjective opinion of how they looked in warmups.

You'd be fine if you said you didn't trust JC. You'd be fine if you said you hoped BJ became the starter. You go beyond all reason when you declare at this point that BJ is the better QB.

I never said JC wasn't talented, didn't have a head start, didn't have more and better experience, or anything like that.
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No. You said he threw INT's 50% of the time while implying that BJ walks on water.

This all came out of me saying that from what I've seen of BOTH player's HS film,
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You didn't say that but it is more relevant than anything else you've posted. Now, how much? Where did it actually come from?

practice and warmups,
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What practices? What situations?
I think BJ has better tools.
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Be specific about what you've actually seen... and maybe we have something real to discuss.

I'll be honest enough to say I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE which one has the better tools. People who evaluated them as preps certainly imply that JC does... but I don't have any other tangible, credible proof either way.
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No. In actuality, I think most folks here have pretty well muddled through your diatribes to catch on...
 
#124
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I don't reject anyone's expertise. Everyone has a right to their opinion, and I base mine on what I've seen. I have that right, don't I? I never declared BJ the better QB definitively, I said I think BJ is our best option and is as or more talented than JC.

What practices? Some of us, I know this may come as a shock, actually attend a practice or two. See what things look like behind the scenes, see what some players look like that we don't get to see on Saturdays.

Keep picking apart things if you want, I've not maintained anything more than I think BJ is our best option. I have seen JC make terrible on the field decisions and never said BJ wouldn't make any. I just made the point that I think JC is a waste of time when I think BJC can give us equal or better results.

Please, tell me why I'm not entitled to that.
 
#125
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GoVols817 said:
I don't reject anyone's expertise. Everyone has a right to their opinion, and I base mine on what I've seen. I have that right, don't I? I never declared BJ the better QB definitively, I said I think BJ is our best option and is as or more talented than JC.

What practices? Some of us, I know this may come as a shock, actually attend a practice or two. See what things look like behind the scenes, see what some players look like that we don't get to see on Saturdays.

Keep picking apart things if you want, I've not maintained anything more than I think BJ is our best option. I have seen JC make terrible on the field decisions and never said BJ wouldn't make any. I just made the point that I think JC is a waste of time when I think BJC can give us equal or better results.

Please, tell me why I'm not entitled to that.
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you're absolutely entitled, just don't say it 5000 times just because people disagree. You're not changing any minds after the first 3000.

IMO, BJC has not played a college snap and that means you have no earthly idea what might transpire when he does.
 
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