The Official Libertarian/Anarcho-Capitalist Thread

#676
#676
n_huffhines said:
My protection agency can crush your small platoon. It's no contest. Nobody is rich enough to misbehave and then go head to head with a protection agency.
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But... it would be like being in the woods and being attacked by a bear. I don't have to outrun the bear, only you. I wouldn't have to win the day against your protection agency, I'd pay a bounty to my guys to have you killed in the first volley. But we'd go guerrilla since you have the bigger, less mobile army and shoot your azz while you were watching Jimmy Fallon. lulz

Yup. Feudalism is what you're talking about. funny funny stuff.
 
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#677
SpaceCoastVol said:
But... it would be like being in the woods and being attacked by a bear. I don't have to outrun the bear, only you. I wouldn't have to win the day against your protection agency, I'd pay a bounty to my guys to have you killed in the first volley. But we'd go guerrilla since you have the bigger, less mobile army and shoot your azz while you were watching Jimmy Fallon. lulz

Yup. Feudalism is what you're talking about. funny funny stuff.
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You would do that...if you weren't afraid of retaliation. My protection agency is obligated to make you pay for injustices against me. Even after my death. That's what I pay for with my premiums.
 
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n_huffhines said:
You would do that...if you weren't afraid of retaliation. My protection agency is obligated to make you pay for injustices against me. Even after my death. That's what I pay for with my premiums.
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Now you're talking about feudal Japan. Your mercenary army is without a benefactor, thus they are Ronin. Even worse is that once they fulfill whatever obligation they have to your corpse, they no longer have a purpose.
 
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#679
#679
n_huffhines said:
They aren't richer than all the other protection agencies. They all keep each other in line because of the idea of separation of powers.

The more the power is separated, the harder it is to consolidate.
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So explain how would the protection in the Bronx be as well funded as the one in the Hamptons?
 
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#680
n_huffhines said:
You would do that...if you weren't afraid of retaliation. My protection agency is obligated to make you pay for injustices against me. Even after my death. That's what I pay for with my premiums.
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After death, which means payments stop why would they care?
 
#681
#681
n_huffhines said:
You would do that...if you weren't afraid of retaliation. My protection agency is obligated to make you pay for injustices against me. Even after my death. That's what I pay for with my premiums.
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Riiiiiiiight.:loco:

Interesting that your system is centered around the almighty dollar yet you somehow believe that when you are room temperature there will be some sort of "loyalty".
 
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hog88 said:
So explain how would the protection in the Bronx be as well funded as the one in the Hamptons?
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Well, people in the Bronx would share some of the same protection agencies that are protecting people in the Hamptons.

It's not geographically based. It's based on whichever companies services most appeal to you. You could get a protection agency that doesn't **** around with theft (you pay extra for that). You would have a sign on your house that says, "protected by Thief-f***ers" and they harshly punish property crimes. I could be your next-door neighbor, and might have a little more compassion than you, so the protection agency I choose I pay extra for stronger enforcement of crimes against children in my community, and don't worry so much about property crimes. I got heat and dogs to protect my house. Both of us would obviously make decisions based on what we can afford.

But the bottom line is nobody makes a profit by going unnecessarily to war. It's not government. It's business and there is too much separation of power.
 
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#689
hog88 said:
I think he is.
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It's okay. I'm set:

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Obsessed said:
You know what's crazy? I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if that wasn't in your basement. Not one damn bit!
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You know what's crazier? I've never played one minute of HALO. Like ever.

But I do enjoy the Red vs Blue series.
 
#696
#696
n_huffhines said:
Still have no idea how video games relate the economics of ancap. Yuck it up, gomers.
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And we still have no idea how your protection agency is going to be the baddest in the land...

Let's suppose for a moment we have your An-Cap society. What's to stop me from hiring a protection company like say Blackwater? Or a form thereof. Let's face facts, those guys have (or had) no qualms about the shoot first mentality. So you send in your protection agency for me in a perceived injustice. What's to stop me from sending out my protection agency to take yours to school?

Or the TV show Jericho for example. What's to stop a security company like was portrayed there from going out and making demands of the areas under their protection? And killing those who resist?

And that's the entire argument against the An-Cap contracted law enforcement/protection. You may have some good guys out there and you will certainly have those that will abuse the system and become more powerful than society can control.
 
#697
#697
Or I'll toss another hypothetical situation out there...

Let's say you have a farmer who is in a contract to provide a buyer with a hundred eggs every month. Said farmer has a disaster in which his flock is decimated to where he could only provide enough eggs for his family to survive until his flock is regrown. But buyer says "tough luck, but you owe me a hundred eggs no matter what. And the contract doesn't cover the situation we're in."

So the matter goes to arbitration and the arbitrator agrees with the buyer since the terms of the contract are not being fulfilled. Seller offers an alternative, but the buyer won't budge since he is supposed to receive a hundred eggs no matter what. So the buyer, being the shady slimeball he is, sends in his protection service and drags the seller away since he is not fulfilling his end of the bargain. The seller went with a low bid protection agency, or possibly even not one at all, and they are quickly removed from the equation because the arbitrator stated the seller was in the wrong and according to the "law" the seller must honor his end of the bargain.

Now is this fair to take the seller into your "humane work camp" because of events out of his control? Or to starve a family? And don't say that the buyer would be understanding since you know very well there are people out there concerned with getting paid and nothing more.

Care to list the An-Cap alternative?
 
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