Recruiting Forum: Football Talk XVI

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csprig9 said:
What's gitshirt?
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#854
#854
Hubbs was asked about Hendrix

I do believe he is going to return this spring and finish his year or "residency" to help him transfer somewhere and be on scholarship and not have to pay for school somewhere this spring or go to a junior college. Right now, I don't see him having a change of the mind and returning to the team
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Payne is a good reminder that individual rankings are fairly unreliable. He was a consensus four-star. Rankings should be thought of as a guess as to a player's potential. It shouldn't be taken so literally as to how good a player will be. It's more like they have the physical characteristics to be good.

In contrast, I think the class rankings do more to correlate to wins. A highly ranked class means you have more potential spread across twenty-plus players, instead of just looking at one at a time.
 
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jave36 said:
Linked a gif, even better. Cut back, avoiding tackles on sideline while keeping balance, and avoiding tackle from behind. Might be the best run I've seen this year.
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#26 for Arizona... Lol dude just got tossed like a bag of moldy bread.
 
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SSVol said:
The whole processing thing is difficult, but how else can it be? You bring in 30+ in a class. After a season, it becomes apparent that some can, some can't, some won't, and some crash and burn. The best 20+ move to the next level, and the others move on. Next year, you repeat the cycle. Survival of the fittest. Hard, but reality. Only 85 spots, and the best will fill them. The key is to love the them all, treat with respect, and help them find places that they can excel.
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Agreed. Good post.
 
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RiotVol said:
Sunday night nerdiness...

I ran a correlation matrix for all of the SEC teams' win percentages since 1990 (minus A&M and Missouri).

Here it is...

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And here's the highest and lowest correlations for each team...

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My takeaway is that South Carolina is our bellwether school. When I first did this in 2012, I kind of got a sick feeling because I didn't think there was really a good chance of Dooley beating Spurrier.

Then enter Butch. As much as beating Florida this year would have been nice, beating South Carolina in back to back years is just huge as far as I'm concerned.

Anyways, the full-nerdiness is here.
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Nice job...appreciate it. Good info. :hi:
 
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OrangeLynx said:
This, plus they need to watch how many carries they give Hurd considering his injury history
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What injury history? Guy tears his labrum in HS and has surgery to make it stronger, and everyone thinks he has a history of being injured. Did he play banged up some this year? Sure. What starting RB in the SEC doesn't play banged up at some point?
 
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Just a comment on my feelings about OT recruit Drew Richmond. Didn't want to post it in his thread because I really want it to die. I believe he may be one of the worst kids that UT has recruited in a number of years. He's not like some others that actually considered UT and changed near NSD because they got an offer from a school they liked better. DR has been a OM guy from early on in the process and has used his trips up here to recruit for OM. This also shows that his parents are no better (nut doesn't fall far from the tree) because they allowed and possibly pushed his charades of playing games with UT coaches. I now firmly believe DR, his parents and other family members and friends in Memphis knew what was going on with him.
I believe UT should still do their best to recruit the Memphis area but they should watch out for the Richmond type kids that play games with them. I put the Richmond's in the same boat with DeVinner. JMO FWIW
 
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OldVol49vfl said:
Just a comment on my feelings about OT recruit Drew Richmond. Didn't want to post it in his thread because I really want it to die. I believe he may be one of the worst kids that UT has recruited in a number of years. He's not like some others that actually considered UT and changed near NSD because they got an offer from a school they liked better. DR has been a OM guy from early on in the process and has used his trips up here to recruit for OM. This also shows that his parents are no better (nut doesn't fall far from the tree) because they allowed and possibly pushed his charades of playing games with UT coaches. I now firmly believe DR, his parents and other family members and friends in Memphis knew what was going on with him.
I believe UT should still do their best to recruit the Memphis area but they should watch out for the Richmond type kids that play games with them. I put the Richmond's in the same boat with DeVinner. JMO FWIW
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No doubt that Richmond and Freeze have used Butch like a rented mule to sway other recruits to OM.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
What injury history? Guy tears his labrum in HS and has surgery to make it stronger, and everyone thinks he has a history of being injured. Did he play banged up some this year? Sure. What starting RB in the SEC doesn't play banged up at some point?
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Lucky he didn't take more damage. The OL was a train wreck. Next year should be better. Hurd and Kamara will put on a show.
 
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jave36 said:
Linked a gif, even better. Cut back, avoiding tackles on sideline while keeping balance, and avoiding tackle from behind. Might be the best run I've seen this year.
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Peterson is having a sorry year...instead of shoving him out of bounds he made a lame attempt to strip the ball.
 
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OldVol49vfl said:
Just a comment on my feelings about OT recruit Drew Richmond. Didn't want to post it in his thread because I really want it to die. I believe he may be one of the worst kids that UT has recruited in a number of years. He's not like some others that actually considered UT and changed near NSD because they got an offer from a school they liked better. DR has been a OM guy from early on in the process and has used his trips up here to recruit for OM. This also shows that his parents are no better (nut doesn't fall far from the tree) because they allowed and possibly pushed his charades of playing games with UT coaches. I now firmly believe DR, his parents and other family members and friends in Memphis knew what was going on with him.
I believe UT should still do their best to recruit the Memphis area but they should watch out for the Richmond type kids that play games with them. I put the Richmond's in the same boat with DeVinner. JMO FWIW
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Honestly, I wouldn't go that far. I think the kid was thoroughly confused about what to do. I have little doubt that he liked UT at one point. You don't make those trips if you don't. It has also been publicly acknowledged that his girlfriend is at or going to UT. Did he recruit for OM while on a visit? I have no idea, and I doubt many people know. It does look like the local and family pressure got to him, and that us something that many recruits deal with. I won't necessarily call him a bad kid because of it. But, the staff learns, and we all move on.
 
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RiotVol said:
Sunday night nerdiness...

I ran a correlation matrix for all of the SEC teams' win percentages since 1990 (minus A&M and Missouri).

Here it is...

slide5.jpg


And here's the highest and lowest correlations for each team...

slide6.jpg


My takeaway is that South Carolina is our bellwether school. When I first did this in 2012, I kind of got a sick feeling because I didn't think there was really a good chance of Dooley beating Spurrier.

Then enter Butch. As much as beating Florida this year would have been nice, beating South Carolina in back to back years is just huge as far as I'm concerned.

Anyways, the full-nerdiness is here.
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There's nothing extra you can do on an OV or an UOV that you couldn't do on Twitter... In fact, if you're on a visit and the guy next to you starts badmouthing your host and pumping up another school, don't you get a negative view of that program. Trolls are ugly...on here and out there.
 
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WriterVol said:
Payne is a good reminder that individual rankings are fairly unreliable. He was a consensus four-star. Rankings should be thought of as a guess as to a player's potential. It shouldn't be taken so literally as to how good a player will be. It's more like they have the physical characteristics to be good.

In contrast, I think the class rankings do more to correlate to wins. A highly ranked class means you have more potential spread across twenty-plus players, instead of just looking at one at a time.
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It should also be noted that he's a true freshman and, under better circumstances and on a better team, his production, or lack thereof as a freshman, would be of little significance.

I get what you're saying but I disagree with the underlying principle.

I'd rather keep him than have him transfer.
 
#873
#873
Man....I can't wait to buy tickets for the SEC championship next year to watch our beloved Vols!!!!
 
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SouthKnoxVOL said:
Man....I can't wait to buy tickets for the SEC championship next year to watch our beloved Vols!!!!
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If we make it, I will definitely be there. That's not my baseline expectation for next year's team, but I do expect us to be very much in the conversation for it through out the season.
 
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