Even More Obamacare Follies

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Thrasher865 said:
Same way it's fair that my $1,000 procedure cost me $10,000 because I have to pay for uninsured low-lifes.

As I've said in the past, I'm all for hospitals being allowed to reject care based on lack of proof of ability to pay, just like a bank would for a mortgage. Of course there are a lot of holes in this as well.
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I'm In agreement, can't pay can't get service.
 
#3,189
#3,189
Thrasher865 said:
Same way it's fair that my $1,000 procedure cost me $10,000 because I have to pay for uninsured low-lifes.

As I've said in the past, I'm all for hospitals being allowed to reject care based on lack of proof of ability to pay, just like a bank would for a mortgage. Of course there are a lot of holes in this as well.
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I realize what you are saying and hospitals are a business. I just do not think there is a large number of health professionals that would just let someone die, or set
a broke bone etc if the knew they would never get paid. It is human nature to help people.
 
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hog88 said:
Never have used police services but since they are tax funded, I'm already paying. As for fire, I am paying. Don't make you're yearly "contribution" they don't show.
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And for those who aren't paying. Do you not believe they should receive services from the police department?
 
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hog88 said:
Who's not paying? Is there a state, county or city in the US with no form of taxation?
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Im glad we agree on something. Now maybe we can also both agree that health care should not be a business.
 
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Health care is a public good. I do not think that hospitals and doctors should be government employees. But I do think that there should be a single payor system. Now before you go ape claiming that they would pay so poorly that it would be a disincentive to medical providers, I'll point out that most insurance companies already use the feds system of DRG codes to assign reimbursement, and providers accept that.
 
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hog88 said:
It is a business and a business shouldn't be forced to serve those that can't pay!
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My mistake. I meant to put that it should not be a business. You shouldn't make a profit for treating cancer, just like you shouldn't profit from investigating a homocide or putting out a fire.
 
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Vol8188 said:
My mistake. I meant to put that it should not be a business. You shouldn't make a profit for treating cancer, just like you shouldn't profit from investigating a homocide or putting out a fire.
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Without profit we wouldn't be treating cancer, have MRI machines or the people to run them, open heart surgery, vaccines life saving drugs ext.

You ever wonder why little to no medical breakthroughs happen outside of the US?

In almost every country with socialized medicine there are two systems, the public which rations care and the private that the rich use. There will always be profit in healthcare.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Health care is a public good. I do not think that hospitals and doctors should be government employees. But I do think that there should be a single payor system. Now before you go ape claiming that they would pay so poorly that it would be a disincentive to medical providers, I'll point out that most insurance companies already use the feds system of DRG codes to assign reimbursement, and providers accept that.
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You apparently haven't been paying attention to what's going on in the VA medical system.
 
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hog88 said:
In almost every country with socialized medicine there are two systems, the public which rations care and the private that the rich use. There will always be profit in healthcare.
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Sounds like a good system to me.
 
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