Recruiting Forum: Football Talk XV

[jave36]

SMILE RT @slmandel: McElwain being described as a Saban disciple but he actually spent longer under John L. Smith at Louisville & MSU.

 

[eazyTD]

SMILE RT @slmandel: McElwain being described as a Saban disciple but he actually spent longer under John L. Smith at Louisville & MSU.

 

[pierce60]

Some Bama people I know are scared McElwain will raid the UA staff and bring them on at UF because he was apparently really liked during his time in Tuscaloosa. Could this be Lance Thompson's shot at DC? What about Kevin Steele?

 

[DD4ME]

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Awesome

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Some Bama people I know are scared McElwain will raid the UA staff and bring them on at UF because he was apparently really liked during his time in Tuscaloosa. Could this be Lance Thompson's shot at DC? What about Kevin Steele?

If Kevin Steele will bring that same defense that he had play against West Virginia in the Orange bowl, then I'll allow it!

 

[DD4ME]

Nebraska seems to have frost bite to the brain. UF got a solid triple and don't kid yourself thinking he is not. They'll spend a ton on him and will be married to him for about 8 years but he'll do ok.

 

[thomaseusin]

Some Bama people I know are scared McElwain will raid the UA staff and bring them on at UF because he was apparently really liked during his time in Tuscaloosa. Could this be Lance Thompson's shot at DC? What about Kevin Steele?

would love to see a former Bama position coach be an unproven DC in a new team.. Exhibit 1-Vols circa 2012

 

[VolGee4]

Some Bama people I know are scared McElwain will raid the UA staff and bring them on at UF because he was apparently really liked during his time in Tuscaloosa. Could this be Lance Thompson's shot at DC? What about Kevin Steele?

I don't know who all is on that staff, but he won't raid the top assistants (money and already on solid ground). Saban has shown that he can hire almost anyone, and they will continue to roll.

 

[UT = Checkmate]

As long as Butch beats Florida, then keep him forever.

 

[Vol464]

Some Bama people I know are scared McElwain will raid the UA staff and bring them on at UF because he was apparently really liked during his time in Tuscaloosa. Could this be Lance Thompson's shot at DC? What about Kevin Steele?

Sunseri, imo.

 

[daj2576]

I think we've said this every year since 2010, but next year really IS our best chance to beat UF in years.

IMO, we will actually have a talent advantage for the first time in....ever, maybe. Getting them early in the season is actually a good thing as well. Hopefully there are some growing pains with McElwain's system.

To your comment about the talent advantage. It certainly has been a long time since UT out-recruit Florida for a four year stretch.



EDIT FOR CLARITY: Each data point is the trailing four year Rivals recruiting average.

 

[Ericvol2096]

McElwain uses nursery rhymes for the names of some of his plays.

http://youtu.be/ZjzJ1iRraB8

Treon Harris' reaction when McElwain tells him to run Little Bo Peep on two

These quotes feel very Dooleyish to me...anyone else?

 

[DD4ME]

To your comment about the talent advantage. It certainly has been a long time since UT out-recruit Florida for a four year stretch.

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Depressing

 

[Aesius]

To your comment about the talent advantage. It certainly has been a long time since UT out-recruit Florida for a four year stretch.

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EDIT FOR CLARITY: Each data point is the trailing four year Rivals recruiting average.

I think with them losing a lot of players, we may have a slight edge heading into next year's matchup.

 

[smokeyhuntsgators]

I'd like to know HG's thoughts on the new hire. Haven't seen him on here in a while.

 

[daj2576]

Depressing

It might be, but it is also understandable.

Recruiting appears tied to the demographics within roughly a half days drive of campus. That is the talent pool that will make up the majority of the roster. There is a strong advantage for Gainesville there.

The good news is that Tennessee talent from Jackson east is increasing substantially, and UT is re-establishing its historically strong connection to the Charlotte and Atlanta areas. A UT recruiter, due to the talent pool around Knoxville, will naturally have to work harder to recruit than one in Gainesville or Athens. That is why, even if the on field results are slower to improve than many would like, Butch is an almost invaluable commodity to date, at least in my view.

Check this one out:



You could look at this chart alone and predict which SEC team likely wins championships over the past few years.

 

[daj2576]

I think with them losing a lot of players, we may have a slight edge heading into next year's matchup.

If you will remind me after NSD, I will build both team's rosters accounting for attrition, talent, and years in program for comparison.

Depending on how Florida and UT finish this year on the recruiting trail, the pre-attrition gap could close substantially.

 

[RiotVol]

To your comment about the talent advantage. It certainly has been a long time since UT out-recruit Florida for a four year stretch.

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I like your style.

There should be a thread just for stats nerds who like football.

 

[DaddyChad]

Barn with a real DC will be stupid skrong after they get settled in...

Muschamp is a great recruiter as well. That would be a nightmare for Bama.

 

[daj2576]

I like your style.

There should be a thread just for stats nerds who like football.

I spent a couple years wading through the mucky-muck on the dark side (FF) with this stuff, trying to talk some sense to them...

That was depressing.

I figure you guys would like this much better.

 

[tomq_123]

I spent a couple years wading through the mucky-muck on the dark side (FF) with this stuff, trying to talk some sense to them...

That was depressing.

I figure you guys would like this much better.

Can't really talk sense into the rabble in the FF. Common sense just isn't their thing.

 

[daj2576]

Can't really talk sense into the rabble in the FF. Common sense just isn't their thing.

Yeah. It's like trying to herd a bunch of cat(bone)s.

 

[Ericvol2096]

To your comment about the talent advantage. It certainly has been a long time since UT out-recruit Florida for a four year stretch.

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What would the numbers look like next year if we finish 5th and UF finishes around 15-20?

 

[C-town Vol]

Those charts look strange considering we had a top 5ish class last year. It doesn't seem to account for that on the chart. Of course I never was much of a chart reader.

 

[csprig9]

I don't know who all is on that staff, but he won't raid the top assistants (money and already on solid ground). Saban has shown that he can hire almost anyone, and they will continue to roll.

Sabans hires aee rediculously good....Wouldn't surprise me if Jon gruden is his qb coach one day