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buffaloblue said:
These are 2nd/3rd Team All American numbers at worst imo. Also All SEC as well.
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He and Maggitt will be on the list for sure, along with JRM and probably Randolph. Sutton didn't have amazing stats because he wasn't thrown at much, so the Herbstreits of the world won't look at him. Still, we could have 5 returning defenders on the all sec teams.
 
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jave36 said:
He and Maggitt will be on the list for sure, along with JRM and probably Randolph. Sutton didn't have amazing stats because he wasn't thrown at much, so the Herbstreits of the world won't look at him. Still, we could have 5 returning defenders on the all sec teams.
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1st-Team All SEC:
Freshman DE Derek Barnett
Sophomore CB Cameron Sutton

2nd-Team All SEC:
Junior DE Curt Maggitt
Sophomore OLB Jalen Reeves-Maybin

AJ Johnson deserves to and definitely would have earned 1st-Team All SEC if he hadn't of been indefinitely suspended from the program. I strongly doubt AJ makes an All-SEC team after the allegations.

Derek Barnett is a lock for 1st-Team All SEC, IMO. Curt Maggitt deserves the 1st-Team recognition as well, but it will be difficult for him with Ray & Golden at Missouri, Fowler Jr. at Florida, and Dupree at Kentucky. I believe he ends up making 2nd-Team All Conference.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Are you saying McElwain's buyout is 7.5 mil? How in the world did Colorado State get a deal with him with that large of a buyout?
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Jimmy Sexton is freaking genius when it comes to getting his clients paid.


Charlie Weis is making 12mill this year alone from ND, UF and Kan.


Not really sure what he was thinking with the buyout being 7.5 m tho.
 
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HialeahGator said:
Jimmy Sexton is freaking genius when it comes to getting his clients paid.


Charlie Weis is making 12mill this year alone from ND, UF and Kan.


Not really sure what he was thinking with the buyout being 7.5 m tho.
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Charlie Weis :eek:lol:

That, ladies and gentlemen, is what you call a decisive, schematic advantage
 
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Aesius said:
It feels really, really good to not see a "Countdown until it's football time in Tennessee" thread in the FF.

Can't complain about an off-season that's 30 days shorter than the last 3.
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YES!!! And I look forward to the days we play in the SEC championship, plus the four team playoff (or more when they do eight teams, which will be coming shortly, no doubt)
 
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HialeahGator said:
Jimmy Sexton is freaking genius when it comes to getting his clients paid.


Charlie Weis is making 12mill this year alone from ND, UF and Kan.


Not really sure what he was thinking with the buyout being 7.5 m tho.
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Didn't Weis leave UF to take the UK HC job? Why would UF be paying him anything?
 
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flowd82 said:
UT DL Derek Barnett had one of the most impressive regular season performances by a UT defensive player in the last several years.

The dominant, true freshman defensive-end finished the regular season as one of the top defensive statistical leaders in both the SEC and the NCAA.

Barnett completed his freshman season by recording 69 tackles, 20.5 TFL, & 10 sacks.

Barnett's 69 tackles placed him tied for 4th on UT's team. His tackle total was also good for 25th place in the SEC & was the 2nd highest total of any freshman in the conference (Nigel Bowden-Vanderbilt-78).

Barnett excelled most at disrupting his opponents' backfield & notching tackles behind the LOS. The DE recorded a team best 20.5 tackles for loss during his true freshman year. That total placed Barnett 1st (tied with Missouri DE Shane Ray) in the SEC for most TFL this season, while also placing him with the 3rd highest TFL total in the entire NCAA. Barnett finished the season with the most TFL by a freshman in the SEC & the NCAA. The next closest TFL totals by freshmen were 13.5 by OSU LB Darron Lee & 12.5 by Texas A&M DE Myles Garrett.

Barnett also finished with the 2nd most sacks on UT's defense this season with 10 (Curt Maggitt-11). Barnett's regular season sack total was the 4th highest in the SEC & tied for the 13th highest in the NCAA. Barnett finished the season with the 2nd most QB sacks by a freshman in the SEC & the NCAA (Myles Garrett-Texas A&M-11).

Derek Barnett's Final Statistical Standings:

Tackles: (4th most on the team, 25th most in the SEC).
TFL: (Most on team, most in the SEC, 3rd most in NCAA).
Sack: (2nd most on the team, 4th most in the SEC, 13th most in NCAA).
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Having Maggit again next year will help Barnette's numbers explode. Expecially when coupled with pressure from guys like KM.
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
FootballScoop Staff ‏@FootballScoop 3m3 minutes ago
Well now, per SB Nation, Hugh Freeze has an offer in hand from Florida “in the range of $4.2 million”. Ole Miss making push w close to $4M
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IMO 4.2 isn't going to get Freeze to UF. I said earlier I think 5 would. Ole Miss I expected to come in right at 4 to keep him.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
IMO 4.2 isn't going to get Freeze to UF. I said earlier I think 5 would. Ole Miss I expected to come in right at 4 to keep him.
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If I am Freeze's agent I tell him to squeeze Ole Miss and sit tight. He can milk that relationship for a while and still land a top job for possibly even more money.
 
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DD4ME said:
If I am Freeze's agent I tell him to squeeze Ole Miss and sit tight. He can milk that relationship for a while and still land a top job for possibly even more money.
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I guess that depends on who ends up being right with the Ole Miss situation. A lot of fans( on this board) have pointed out for a while that Ole Miss has "topped out" and can only go down from here. I don't agree at all. I see it as Freeze has built a national title contender very quickly. He is STILL killing it in recruiting. He beat several very good teams this year. I don't see any reason he could not keep recruiting well and keep winning at Ole Miss. If he can beat Bama with a whole bunch of 3* talent on the roster this year, I see no reason he could not do it with more 4-5* talent in years to come. Ole Miss gives the man 4 million a year and IMO they could be in the hunt for a while.
 
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So from a recruiting standpoint, what would concern you more, Freeze pulling Tennessee kids to Ole Miss, or is the draw to Florida even stronger than the close to home pull?
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
FootballScoop Staff ‏@FootballScoop 3m3 minutes ago
Well now, per SB Nation, Hugh Freeze has an offer in hand from Florida “in the range of $4.2 million”. Ole Miss making push w close to $4M
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Why not spring for the .2?
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
So from a recruiting standpoint, what would concern you more, Freeze pulling Tennessee kids to Ole Miss, or is the draw to Florida even stronger than the close to home pull?
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I'd think for at least a couple years he could still pull W TN kids to UF. I would expect rather quickly though he would turn his focus to FL recruiting as IMO he could probably pull 85-90% of his roster from instate.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I'd think for at least a couple years he could still pull W TN kids to UF. I would expect rather quickly though he would turn his focus to FL recruiting as IMO he could probably pull 85-90% of his roster from instate.
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So in that scenario, we own the state, but have to face him annually with a Florida loaded squad.

Can we just ship him out west... Like Cal? :dunno:
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
So from a recruiting standpoint, what would concern you more, Freeze pulling Tennessee kids to Ole Miss, or is the draw to Florida even stronger than the close to home pull?
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I would rather him be out of Ole Miss so that he would stop poaching our recruits. In the hotbeds of Florida he could be rather self contained when it comes to recruiting. Dude is a great recruiter, but I'm not ready to call him a great coach yet. I'll roll that dice.

Also that 100% guarantees Richmond coming home.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
If it was a deal breaker, they would, but they aren't showing their full hand at this point. The inconvenience of having to pull up camp, move and start over is worth the .2 they are holding on to
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Yeah I agree that not having to move, upset the wife, pull kids out of school is worth 200 grand a year. Especially if your current employer is willing to bump your pay from 3 million to 4. Also Ole Miss has redone Freezes contract EVERY year he has been there. IMO Ole Miss is treating the man very fairly.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Any idea what Hugh Freeze's current buyout is? IMO that would have to factor in. Especially considering the buyout of the other candidate.
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Can't recall. Read it somewhere last wk.


I personally think its Freeze's agent driving up the number for OM. If Fl is willing to pay 5.5 with bonuses then OM is going to need 5m base to keep him.
 
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MockingVol said:
I would rather him be out of Ole Miss so that he would stop poaching our recruits. In the hotbeds of Florida he could be rather self contained when it comes to recruiting. Dude is a great recruiter, but I'm not ready to call him a great coach yet. I'll roll that dice.

Also that 100% guarantees Richmond coming home.
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We'll see. Rumors were IF DR did not end up at Ole Miss, Bama was his likely landing spot. It would also not surprise me at all if he decided on UF. Also consider if Ole Miss were willing to pay Freeze up to and possibly over 4 million a year, they may be able to hire a GREAT replacement if needed. Whose to say DR does not just like Ole Miss and sticks with his commitment if he likes the new guy?

I just don't think DR likes UT nearly as much as some fans thinks he does.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
We'll see. Rumors were IF DR did not end up at Ole Miss, Bama was his likely landing spot. It would also not surprise me at all if he decided on UF. Also consider if Ole Miss were willing to pay Freeze up to and possibly over 4 million a year, they may be able to hire a GREAT replacement if needed. Whose to say DR does not just like Ole Miss and sticks with his commitment if he likes the new guy?

I just don't think DR likes UT nearly as much as some fans thinks he does.
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Where in the world did you hear that Bama nonsense? Even with Freeze staying at OM we have roughly a 20% chance of flipping him. This has always been UT vs OM though, there are no other contestants.

Edit: just found that news. That kinda pisses me off if true.
 
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