Even More Obamacare Follies

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Vol8188 said:
That's not the question we were trying to address. We were only talking about approval when it was passed.
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You conveniently avoid the fact what was being sold to the people when it passed was not what was delivered. Not to mention that even congress admittedly didn't know what they were passing.
 
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Vol8188 said:
No one should. Why should ones ability to seek needed medical treatment be limited by their financial status?
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Why should ones ability to seek a higher education be limited to their financial status? Food, clothes, a home you know three basic requirements for life.
 
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#2,980
Vol8188 said:
That's not the question we were trying to address. We were only talking about approval when it was passed.
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That number doesn't matter, either. Because at that point, the bill had yet to be read by anybody but Jonathan Gruber and only he knew what a **** sandwich it was.
 
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govols/cc said:
Because people become dependent on them and never strive to not become dependent on them?
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Based on?

This is my problem with republicans. You assume everyone is abusing the system. In a true capitalist society, you will always have different income levels. Therefore some assistance is neccessary.
 
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MG1968 said:
That number doesn't matter, either. Because at that point, the bill had yet to be read by anybody but Jonathan Gruber and only he knew what a **** sandwich it was.
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You mean this guy? The one sitting in the room with a guy who said he didn't know him?
 

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govols/cc said:
If you can't afford to pay for goods or services then you don't get them. That's how the real world works.
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So ones ability to seek medical assistance should be based on their income? That's outrageous. Perhaps we should eliminate public defenders also.

Justice and healthcare for the wealthy only
 
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MG1968 said:
Nearly 60 years of the "war on poverty" and no change in the percentage of Americans at or below the poverty line.
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You don't think that has anything to do with overpopulation?

Or where we set the poverty line? Especially since disposable income has increased since then.
 
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govols/cc said:
You're either naive or incredibly stupid or both. Show me a chart related to welfare that goes down and not up. Over $130 billion a year and that's without food stamps or unemployment tied in.
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I've never stated everyone needs assistance. But you seem to be convinced that everyone is abusing it. Which is absurd.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I've never stated everyone needs assistance. But you seem to be convinced that everyone is abusing it. Which is absurd.
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So you admit some abuse it. That should be enough to abolish it. Do you throw a hundred ones at a homeless person as you drive by and hope he at least catches a couple?
 
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MG1968 said:
47% of whom will never be expected to pay for it, even if they are making $15/hour at MacDonald's.
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You are better than the MG. I don't know why people keep repeating Romney's 47% line knowing it is very misleading. I would call it an outright lie.
 
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Gramps said:
You are better than the MG. I don't know why people keep repeating Romney's 47% line knowing it is very misleading. I would call it an outright lie.
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It's called rhetoric, Gramps. We all know who the democrats expect to pay the bills and it isn't somebody who gets back more than he or she paid in.
 
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