Quote from Coach Thigpen regarding AJ

#51
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alwaysvol said:
biggest gaffe ever? all he would have to say to fix it would be "I couldn't believe A.J. was capable of something like this.

I think people are making to much of the Thig statment.
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then you say that at the beginning of your statement. You don't just openly back him and say you can't wait to get him back.
 
#52
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alwaysvol said:
biggest gaffe ever? all he would have to say to fix it would be "I couldn't believe A.J. was capable of something like this.

I think people are making to much of the Thig statment.
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cbj would be all over this. i'm sure he told his coaches to not say anything until something was found out.
 
#53
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Volstylexx said:
The shame is on you. Releasing her name would be reprehensible at this point.
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Really? You mean just like AJ's has been? His name gets dragged through the mud, regardless of whether there is any validity to the female's accusation, or not. Turn about is fair play. If his name is "out there" so should hers. If it's up to the man to have to clear his name, the female should be exposed to the public, too....until she can clear her name.

There have been way too many false accusations....the Duke Lacrosse players being the most publicly scrutinized....and judged guilty in the media/public well before the guys had a chance to set the record straight....LEGALLY.

If females can be "protected" from public scrutiny, then it becomes to easy to damage a good man's reputation and life. Let her suffer the same scrutiny the male is. Real simple.
 
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volfanbill said:
then you say that at the beginning of your statement. You don't just openly back him and say you can't wait to get him back.
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maybe A.J told him he didn't do it. He's a coach of course he is gonna defend his player.

If you was accused of something like this, wouldn't people that know you come out and say something similar?
 
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This Tweet came from a Tampa reporter..guy needs to be fired if AJ is not charged with a crime


Jason Jennings @WFLAJason
· 44m 44 minutes ago
Nope. Try again, Tommy. RT @wesrucker247: #Vols LBs coach Tommy Thigpen called A.J. Johnson a “great ambassador” after today’s practice.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
Really? You mean just like AJ's has been? His name gets dragged through the mud, regardless of whether there is any validity to the female's accusation, or not. Turn about is fair play. If his name is "out there" so should hers. If it's up to the man to have to clear his name, the female should be exposed to the public, too....until she can clear her name.

There have been way too many false accusations....the Duke Lacrosse players being the most publicly scrutinized....and judged guilty in the media/public well before the guys had a chance to set the record straight....LEGALLY.

If females can be "protected" from public scrutiny, then it becomes to easy to damage a good man's reputation and life. Let her suffer the same scrutiny the male is. Real simple.
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No, it's not "Real Simple," and I'm not going to argue the point with you. If you don't understand why the victim's name, in a sexual assualt, is kept private, then nothing I say is going to sway your opinion. If the victim was your mother, sister, or daughter, I'd think your desire for public scrutiny would be different.
 
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VolnJC said:
This Tweet came from a Tampa reporter..guy needs to be fired if AJ is not charged with a crime


Jason Jennings @WFLAJason
· 44m 44 minutes ago
Nope. Try again, Tommy. RT @wesrucker247: #Vols LBs coach Tommy Thigpen called A.J. Johnson a “great ambassador” after today’s practice.
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lets all tweet this ******* till he gets fired
 
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#61
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finn said:
Earlier this season, T Paulk hit his girlfriend early Sunday morning and he was gone the next day. No charges were pressed but CBJ was judge, jury, and executioner. End of story.

AJ and Williams also have an incident involving women and they have been suspended until further notice but not officially dismissed.

This is only speculation but I have to believe CBJ sat both sets of players down and asked just what the hell happened. Paulk admitted he hit her and was gone. AJ and Williams also told the truth or at least their interpretation of what happened.

Sure, you can assume they just lied but obviously whatever they said was enough for CBJ to merely suspend vs permanently kick them off the team. You can also assume Paulk didn't matter since he was on IR and a 3* to boot but I personally think Jones has more integrity than that.

There are probably a lot of grey areas in this case. I don't doubt something happened but I do believe there are probably a couple different interpretations of just how it went down. Thig's comments seem to suggest AJ's version has some credibility.

Ultimately the case will play out but everybody was ready to hang Treon Harris too earlier in the season until charges were dropped and, at face value, that seemed to be a fairly similar case.
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In the Paulk decision. Its been quoted that ELLIOTT BERRY was present and pulled and restrained Paulk. So with the Berets reputation if Jones asked and Elliott told that then this factor would be included.
 
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Volstylexx said:
No, it's not "Real Simple," and I'm not going to argue the point with you. If you don't understand why the victim's name, in a sexual assualt, is kept private, then nothing I say is going to sway your opinion. If the victim was your mother, sister, or daughter, I'd think your desire for public scrutiny would be different.
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The accuser may not be a victim. By using the word, "victim", the implication is that she was victimized. That has not been established.
 
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Geez, it boggles the mind how people can grasp onto anything and try to manipulate it to support the outcome they desire. We know NOTHING, but still many have already concluded that AJ is innocent beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Until the DA speaks, nothing else matters.
 
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KoachKletus said:
I have one question for you - but before I ask, I will admit that rape is a crime and the rapist should be punished. Now the question - Who is the guilty party if two people had consensual sex, but after the consensual sex, one partner decided to cry rape? Who is the guilty party?
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Volstylexx said:
No, it's not "Real Simple," and I'm not going to argue the point with you. If you don't understand why the victim's name, in a sexual assualt, is kept private, then nothing I say is going to sway your opinion. If the victim was your mother, sister, or daughter, I'd think your desire for public scrutiny would be different.
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You failed to answer my question. You press the point that AJ will not be back this season. You may be correct, you may be wrong. But again - if two people had consensual sex - and after the consensual sex one partner decided it was rape - just whom is the guilty party?
 
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#66
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VolnJC said:
This Tweet came from a Tampa reporter..guy needs to be fired if AJ is not charged with a crime


Jason Jennings @WFLAJason
· 44m 44 minutes ago
Nope. Try again, Tommy. RT @wesrucker247: #Vols LBs coach Tommy Thigpen called A.J. Johnson a “great ambassador” after today’s practice.
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The reporter is right. People that are a great ambassador to anything do not find themselves involved in rape allegations.
 
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HuntsVol_AL said:
The accuser may not be a victim. By using the word, "victim", the implication is that she was victimized. That has not been established.
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Replacing the word victim with accuser makes no difference. In cases of sexual assault, the name of the "Accuser" is always kept private until charges are filed.

The "Accuser's" name is already out there and people have been verbally attacking her calling her a ho, slut, money digger, etc.

That's exactly the reason why "Accuser's" names are kept private. Otherwise, the "Accuser" is often shamed into recanting, and "decides" not to press charges.
 
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chattavol420 said:
It was probably consensual sex... Its just that he's such a beast afterwards she felt like she'd been raped. Carefully what you wish for ladies.
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Or he could have been a little more rough than she wanted/expected. I'm not advocating for leniency for rape, in any way, but it seems to have become too easy to use sex as a money trap. And don't say it doesn't happen. It has, way too often. There are schemers and spiteful people everywhere...and athletes are too exposed to it. Some beautiful women will marry a butt-ugly guy as long as he is financially secure.

If some are willing to go to those lengths, then one false accusation of rape concerning a player THEY KNOW is looking at a big payday soon...is an easier path to financial stability for them.

This is why I say let the women's names be made public, too....if they guy's name is. Only fair. Good way to weed out the schemers from the legit victims.
 
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#73
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KoachKletus said:
You failed to answer my question. You press the point that AJ will not be back this season. You may be correct, you may be wrong. But again - if two people had consensual sex - and after the consensual sex one partner decided it was rape - just whom is the guilty party?
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you state this as if you know the sex was consensual. If the "accuser" had consensual sex and then decided it was rape then of course, he/she is the guilty party, and there is legal recourse that can be taken against them.

Filing a false police report/making false statements is a crime. Also, I'm sure AJ/Williams could seek civil penalties if they choose to go that route.

That said, you still don't ever release the name of the alleged victim of a sexual assault.
 
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Volstylexx said:
you state this as if you know the sex was consensual. If the "accuser" had consensual sex and then decided it was rape then of course, he/she is the guilty party, and there is legal recourse that can be taken against them.

Filing a false police report/making false statements is a crime. Also, I'm sure AJ/Williams could seek civil penalties if they choose to go that route.

That said, you still don't ever release the name of the alleged victim of a sexual assault.
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Says who? Again....using the word "victim" presumptuously implies guilt on the part of the male. Until one person's account prevails, BOTH parties should be public if either one is made known.
 
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