Josh Dobbs will fundamentally redefine the quarterback position at Tennessee if . . .

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Vol_is_Lyfe18 said:
Or sometimes we like to spare ourselves the time it would have taken to read something we can tell won't be worth our time within the first couple of sentences.

As for calling people lazy because of it; well, I might consider it lazy that you forgot to add apostrophes to your post.
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Why are you on a message board anyway? So everything can be spelled out and boiled down to 3 sentences so you can understamd it easier? Damn man you can't get past the 2nd sentence ? Maybe its because you didnt want to read his post in the first place but to talk trash on it.
 
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TennesseeT said:
Thats pretty funny! Banks and Schafer on a UT QB list. Might as well put Gerald Jones on there while you're at it.
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They were running QBs that started at Tennessee at one time or another. Just pointing out that it's not a new concept.
 
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I see the OP's post and raise it with a longer one. :)

1950 - Hank Lauricella - RushAtt/Yds= 122/575 - Pass Comp/Att/Yards = 23/72/364

1956 - Johnny Majors - RushAtt/Yds= 108/549 - Pass Comp/Att/Yds= 36/59/552

1965 - Dewey Warren gets on campus, has more rush attempts than pass attempts

1966 -
Before Warren took over as quarterback, Tennessee's season record for pass attempts was 75. Warren threw the ball 229 times in 1966.

Before Warren, Tennessee's season record for pass completions was 36, set by Johnny Majors in the mid-1950s. Warren completed 136 passes in 1966.

Before Warren, Tennessee's season record for passing yards was 552. Warren threw for 1,716 yards in 1966.
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1967 - Behind Warren UT finished ranked 2nd and he passed for over 1000 yards again, while rushing 45 times for zero yards...just two years prior he ran more than he threw...That's the start of a TRANSFORMATION at the QB position at Tennessee.

1970 - The team finished the year ranked #4, the best year of the Battle era behind Bobby Scott who went 118/252/1697 passing and ran 51 times for 89 yards.

1972 - just two years later, Condredge Holloway takes over on the hill and he RUSHES 123 times for 266 yards and 3 scores while going 73/120 for 807 yards in the air. They finished 8th in the final AP. In fact CH would run the ball at least 100 times each year as a starter.

1979 - Jimmy Streater leads the team to a season high ranking of 17th, rushing 82 times for 377 while completing 80 of 161 passes for 1256 yards. The Vols finished out of the poll but it was the first time a Majors led team was ranked.

1980's - Became the age of the pocket passer, that's not to say that some of these guys weren't mobile at all, but they weren't carrying the team running the football...guys like Steve Alattore, Alan Cockrell, Tony Robinson, Darryl Dickey, Jeff Francis, Andy Kelly, Jerry Colquitt and Sterling Henton...

1992 - Heath Shuler is 2nd in rushing attempts on the squad, 105 Att/ 286 yards and a team high 11 rushing TD's...Charlie Garner, James Little Man Stewart and Aaron Hayden combined only had 10. The Vols finished 12 in the AP Poll.

1994 - Peyton Manning era begins...

1998 - National Championship Team, highest ranked team of the Fulmer era obviously...Tee Martin rushes 103 times for 287 yards and 7 TDs, the same number as Travis Henry. In '99 Martin rushed for 9 TDs, 2 more than Jamal Lewis and 1 more than Travis Henry.

Really we should define this era as the Cutcliffe era, all the way up until he leaves the 2nd time for Duke, because he was getting the QB's he liked for what he ran. DC joined the Vols in 1982, was the QB coach starting in 1990, OC from '93 to '98.

2000's - Clausen, Ainge, Crompton, Bray...none of these guys are particularly mobile


The point is this, some of the highest ranked teams in UT history, going back to 1950, have had QB's that could score with their feet. Obviously over the last 30 years we've had some great seasons with guys that did it all with their arms. In fact, I suppose this is why some younger folks view Dobbs as "redefining the QB position", because unless you are over 30, it's been a long time since you've seen anything but a statue back there... besides Shuler and Martin, and they aren't exactly the same kind of mobile as Dobbs, nor did they play in an offense like the one we have now which has a lot of designed QB runs.

SO...I have no qualms really with the OP, but rather than say Dobbs is redefining, I choose "getting back to our roots". :)

After all, from a formation stand point, if you took Neyland's single wing, split the ends, the wing and the TB, move the QB where the TB was, you'd have the 2x2or 3x1 sets with one back and the QB in the shotgun, just like Bajakian and er'body else runs today.
 
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vol66 said:
I see the OP's post and raise it with a longer one. :)

1950 - Hank Lauricella - RushAtt/Yds= 122/575 - Pass Comp/Att/Yards = 23/72/364

1956 - Johnny Majors - RushAtt/Yds= 108/549 - Pass Comp/Att/Yds= 36/59/552

1965 - Dewey Warren gets on campus, has more rush attempts than pass attempts

1966 -


1967 - Behind Warren UT finished ranked 2nd and he passed for over 1000 yards again, while rushing 45 times for zero yards...just two years prior he ran more than he threw...That's the start of a TRANSFORMATION at the QB position at Tennessee.

1970 - The team finished the year ranked #4, the best year of the Battle era behind Bobby Scott who went 118/252/1697 passing and ran 51 times for 89 yards.

1972 - just two years later, Condredge Holloway takes over on the hill and he RUSHES 123 times for 266 yards and 3 scores while going 73/120 for 807 yards in the air. They finished 8th in the final AP. In fact CH would run the ball at least 100 times each year as a starter.

1979 - Jimmy Streater leads the team to a season high ranking of 17th, rushing 82 times for 377 while completing 80 of 161 passes for 1256 yards. The Vols finished out of the poll but it was the first time a Majors led team was ranked.

1980's - Became the age of the pocket passer, that's not to say that some of these guys weren't mobile at all, but they weren't carrying the team running the football...guys like Steve Alattore, Alan Cockrell, Tony Robinson, Darryl Dickey, Jeff Francis, Andy Kelly, Jerry Colquitt and Sterling Henton...

1992 - Heath Shuler is 2nd in rushing attempts on the squad, 105 Att/ 286 yards and a team high 11 rushing TD's...Charlie Garner, James Little Man Stewart and Aaron Hayden combined only had 10. The Vols finished 12 in the AP Poll.

1994 - Peyton Manning era begins...

1998 - National Championship Team, highest ranked team of the Fulmer era obviously...Tee Martin rushes 103 times for 287 yards and 7 TDs, the same number as Travis Henry. In '99 Martin rushed for 9 TDs, 2 more than Jamal Lewis and 1 more than Travis Henry.

Really we should define this era as the Cutcliffe era, all the way up until he leaves the 2nd time for Duke, because he was getting the QB's he liked for what he ran. DC joined the Vols in 1982, was the QB coach starting in 1990, OC from '93 to '98.

2000's - Clausen, Ainge, Crompton, Bray...none of these guys are particularly mobile


The point is this, some of the highest ranked teams in UT history, going back to 1950, have had QB's that could score with their feet. Obviously over the last 30 years we've had some great seasons with guys that did it all with their arms. In fact, I suppose this is why some younger folks view Dobbs as "redefining the QB position", because unless you are over 30, it's been a long time since you've seen anything but a statue back there... besides Shuler and Martin, and they aren't exactly the same kind of mobile as Dobbs, nor did they play in an offense like the one we have now which has a lot of designed QB runs.

SO...I have no qualms really with the OP, but rather than say Dobbs is redefining, I choose "getting back to our roots". :)

After all, from a formation stand point, if you took Neyland's single wing, split the ends, the wing and the TB, move the QB where the TB was, you'd have the 2x2or 3x1 sets with one back and the QB in the shotgun, just like Bajakian and er'body else runs today.
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Which one of those QBs holds the record for the most yards ran in a game? I be you could say that person might redefine the QB position if he holds the record. I wonder who that guy is?
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
:blink:...Ain't reading all that. Didn't realize this had become the place to proof-read other people's novels
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Has the internet really given us that short of an attention span? That took me 3 minutes to read. Oh, how exhausting! It was well thought out and an interesting perspective on Dobbs. What is wrong people today.
 
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Brasszilla said:
Why are you on a message board anyway? So everything can be spelled out and boiled down to 3 sentences so you can understamd it easier? Damn man you can't get past the 2nd sentence ? Maybe its because you didnt want to read his post in the first place but to talk trash on it.
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Your taking my post completely out of context.

My point was, if he thinks people are lazy because they don't want to read long nonsense, then he should be considered lazy for fogetting a few freakin apostrophes.
 
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jlindsa4 said:
Which one of those QBs holds the record for the most yards ran in a game? I be you could say that person might redefine the QB position if he holds the record. I wonder who that guy is?
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lol...if Jalen Hurd scores 6 TD's in a game at some point in his career breaking the single game record (5 TD's) that Gene McEver's held since the 1929 South Carolina game, will he too be redefining the RB position at UT?
 
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vol66 said:
I see the OP's post and raise it with a longer one. :)

1950 - Hank Lauricella - RushAtt/Yds= 122/575 - Pass Comp/Att/Yards = 23/72/364

1956 - Johnny Majors - RushAtt/Yds= 108/549 - Pass Comp/Att/Yds= 36/59/552

1965 - Dewey Warren gets on campus, has more rush attempts than pass attempts

1966 -


1967 - Behind Warren UT finished ranked 2nd and he passed for over 1000 yards again, while rushing 45 times for zero yards...just two years prior he ran more than he threw...That's the start of a TRANSFORMATION at the QB position at Tennessee.

1970 - The team finished the year ranked #4, the best year of the Battle era behind Bobby Scott who went 118/252/1697 passing and ran 51 times for 89 yards.

1972 - just two years later, Condredge Holloway takes over on the hill and he RUSHES 123 times for 266 yards and 3 scores while going 73/120 for 807 yards in the air. They finished 8th in the final AP. In fact CH would run the ball at least 100 times each year as a starter.

1979 - Jimmy Streater leads the team to a season high ranking of 17th, rushing 82 times for 377 while completing 80 of 161 passes for 1256 yards. The Vols finished out of the poll but it was the first time a Majors led team was ranked.

1980's - Became the age of the pocket passer, that's not to say that some of these guys weren't mobile at all, but they weren't carrying the team running the football...guys like Steve Alattore, Alan Cockrell, Tony Robinson, Darryl Dickey, Jeff Francis, Andy Kelly, Jerry Colquitt and Sterling Henton...

1992 - Heath Shuler is 2nd in rushing attempts on the squad, 105 Att/ 286 yards and a team high 11 rushing TD's...Charlie Garner, James Little Man Stewart and Aaron Hayden combined only had 10. The Vols finished 12 in the AP Poll.

1994 - Peyton Manning era begins...

1998 - National Championship Team, highest ranked team of the Fulmer era obviously...Tee Martin rushes 103 times for 287 yards and 7 TDs, the same number as Travis Henry. In '99 Martin rushed for 9 TDs, 2 more than Jamal Lewis and 1 more than Travis Henry.

Really we should define this era as the Cutcliffe era, all the way up until he leaves the 2nd time for Duke, because he was getting the QB's he liked for what he ran. DC joined the Vols in 1982, was the QB coach starting in 1990, OC from '93 to '98.

2000's - Clausen, Ainge, Crompton, Bray...none of these guys are particularly mobile


The point is this, some of the highest ranked teams in UT history, going back to 1950, have had QB's that could score with their feet. Obviously over the last 30 years we've had some great seasons with guys that did it all with their arms. In fact, I suppose this is why some younger folks view Dobbs as "redefining the QB position", because unless you are over 30, it's been a long time since you've seen anything but a statue back there... besides Shuler and Martin, and they aren't exactly the same kind of mobile as Dobbs, nor did they play in an offense like the one we have now which has a lot of designed QB runs.

SO...I have no qualms really with the OP, but rather than say Dobbs is redefining, I choose "getting back to our roots". :)

After all, from a formation stand point, if you took Neyland's single wing, split the ends, the wing and the TB, move the QB where the TB was, you'd have the 2x2or 3x1 sets with one back and the QB in the shotgun, just like Bajakian and er'body else runs today.
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You know very well that Majors, Lauricella and Cafego, for that matter, were all tailbacks and, in the single wing, the tailback was both the primary ball carrier and the principal passer, although passing in that era, within the context of Neyland's offense, was very limited.

I agree, however, with your characterization of Dewey Warren as the pivotal quarterback in the transition to a modern passing offense. For the record, however, in 1965, Dewey had 79 pass attempts and 47 rushing attempts (Dewey Warren Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com). To really illustrate just how thoroughly Dickey revamped Tennessee's offense, consider the following facts: From 1950 to 1965, no Tennessee player threw more than 79 passes, completed more than 44 attempts, passed for more than 588 yds. or hurled more than 8 touchdown passes. Then, in '66, Dewey Warren attempted 229 passes, threw for 1716 yds., completed 18 touchdown passes and led the nation in passing efficiency.

During the same period, no Tennessee receiver had caught more than 23 passes or amassed more than 357 yds. receiving in a single season. Then, in 1966, Johnny Mills had 48 receptions for 725 yds. and 4 tds., including a monumental 225-yd. performance against Kentucky, which remains the 3rd most yards in a single game by a Tennessee receiver.

By analogy, you might call that transition comparable to going from a Model T Ford to a Corvette . . . in two years.
 
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vol66 said:
lol...if Jalen Hurd scores 6 TD's in a game at some point in his career breaking the single game record (5 TD's) that Gene McEver's held since the 1929 South Carolina game, will he too be redefining the RB position at UT?
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No because touchdowns do not always correlate to offensive production. Also if they ran the ball in a way unaccustomed to the way they usually run at UT... let's say he runs from the wishbone, then yes he would redefine the RB position at Tennessee. I dont know how many QBs ran from the zone read like Dobbs, but I do know the kind of production that the QBs mentioned a couple of posts ago did not have near as much production as Dobbs has had, especially running from the zone read. Therefore, since Dobbs has managed to set a record for yards ran under an offense that TN has not been accustomed to running, I think there is merit to say that Dobbs has accomplished something that may redefine the way 1. UT recruits QBs, 2. Runs the offense, and 3. the role the QB has in a game.

There you guys happy? You made me type all that.
 
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jlindsa4 said:
There is nothing extreme about saying that Josh Dobbs is redefining the QB position AT TENNESSEE. Which is what the OP said. You guys are the crazy extremist babblers. You turned his phrasing so that it may seem he was saying that he is redefining the QB position. OP never said this. He is redefining the QB position AT TENNESSEE. This is arguable, but it makes sense to me. I dont know why so many of you feel the need to call someone out for being 'crazy' or an 'extremist' when all you had to do was read carefully. Again I agree with the statement that Josh Dobbs could redefine the QB position AT TENNESSEE, when Tennessee has traditionally used a pro style QB.
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Thank you for actually taking the time to carefully and precisely read what I posted. All too frequently it seems that the operative mantra on the Football Forum is:

"Blessed art the incessantly sarcastic, chronically critical and intellectually challenged. Their numbers may be few but their cyber "mouths" are inordinately large."
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
Thank you for actually taking the time to carefully and precisely read what I posted. All too frequently it seems that the operative mantra on the Football Forum is:

"Blessed art the incessantly sarcastic, chronically critical and intellectually challenged. Their numbers may be few but their cyber "mouths" are inordinately large."
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Still think the premise is shaky at best. Sue me for daring to disagree.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
In the immediate aftermath of his sterling performance against South Carolina, Josh Dobbs has been the subject of a plethora of threads. This one will speculate on the potential big-picture ramifications of his career at Tennessee. I propose the following hypothesis for your collective scrutiny: If Butch Jones achieves the kind of long-term success that we all hope for and Dobbs can avoid serious injury, Josh will be remembered as having fundamentally redefined the quarterback position at Tennessee.

Prior to this season, a number of contributors to this forum suggested that, based on Butch's track record at CMU and Cincy, he prefers to use the quarterback position as a more integral part of the running game than we are accustomed to seeing from a Tennessee offense. For example, in 2007, Dan Lefevour, Jones’ starting QB at Central Michigan, ran 188 times for 1,122 yards (6.0 ave.) and 19 tds. He also passed for 3,652 yds. and 27 tds. that year. Over the course of his career, Lefevour amassed nearly 3,000 yards and 47 touchdowns on the ground while passing for almost 13,000 yards and 102 touchdowns (Dan Lefevour Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com). Yes, that was against MAC-level competition but Butch is now stockpiling SEC-caliber athletes to implement his system.

Fast-forward to 2014. In two games, Dobbs has rushed for 241 yards on 43 carries (5.6 ypc) while passing for 493 yards and 4 touchdowns. That, of course, includes a school-record 166 yards rushing and 301 yards through the air vs. a very bad South Carolina defense, a total which it appears would now rank third all-time on the single-game total offense charts for Tennessee quarterbacks. On the other hand, Dobbs accounted for 75 yards rushing and 267 yards total offense in 52:05 of action vs. an Alabama defense which, going into the game, was ranked 3rd nationally in scoring defense (13.1 ppg), 2nd in rush defense (63.4 ypg) and 3rd in total defense (262.1 ypg). Dobbs also orchestrated two touchdown drives against ‘bama, both of which were 84 yards in length and culminated 10- and 15-play drives, respectively, which lasted 5:00 and 6:46, respectively. Those are the two longest scoring drives which Alabama has surrendered all season.

If you prefer to examine Dobbs’ immediate impact on team offensive productivity, particularly in terms of opening up the running game, remember that we averaged an anemic 94 ypg and 2.63 ypc rushing for the first seven games. In the two games that Dobbs has started, Tennessee has rushed for 525 yards on 98 carries, a total which is only 133 yards less than we collectively amassed during the preceding seven games. Keep in mind, too, that, in the true litmus test, Tennessee rushed for 181 yards against Alabama, which is almost three times their per-game defensive average. Despite this massive improvement in the running game, our passing attack has not suffered appreciably, accounting for 493 yards and four touchdowns under Dobbs’ direction.

To further contextualize the almost revolutionary dimension that Dobbs brings to Tennessee’s offense, the single-season rushing record for quarterbacks at UT was, to the best of my knowledge, established by Jimmy Streater in 1978, when he ran for 593 yards on 146 carries for 10 touchdowns. It is highly unlikely, but Josh could potentially challenge that record with a strong performance down the stretch. And it boggles the mind to think that such an achievement would represent only five games of his sophomore season.

At this point, I am sure that the length of this post has begun to tax the patience of some of our readers, so I will conclude with the following remarks. First, nobody is predicting All-American honors or Heisman Trophy finalist status for Dobbs, so please refrain from the clichéd “it’s-time-to-pump-the-brakes” response. Second, I am not really a dual-threat quarterback advocate per se. A pure pocket passer can succeed in this offense if he enjoys the protection of a top-caliber SEC offensive line. However, the “MASH”-unit status of this offensive line, which resulted from talent deficiencies, inexperience and injuries at certain positions, made the use of a mobile quarterback utterly imperative if the offensive potential of this squad was to be reached. Third, I suspect that Butch would prefer that his quarterback not carry the ball twenty times a game against an SEC schedule and it should be possible to reduce the position’s workload as Butch restocks and retools the offensive line to the needs of his offensive scheme. Fourth, yes, defensive coordinators most definitely will gameplan to restrict the effectiveness of Dobbs’ specific skillset; it is just as obvious, however, that Josh’s development as a quarterback has not even begun to approach fulfillment of his maximum potential. His command of the passing game, for example, certainly is a work in progress. Fifth, if Josh remains healthy, continues to flourish in this offense and accelerates Tennessee’s return to prominence, Butch will reap even greater rewards on the recruiting trail. Sixth, should Juaun Jennings succeed Dobbs, the die will be cast for Tennessee to become a consistent competitor and destination for elite dual-threat quarterback prospects. Finally, if we can agree on nothing else, we should be able to agree that Josh Dobbs is the most intelligent quarterback at Tennessee since Peyton Manning. If Josh can develop an ability to intellectually dissect opposing defenses comparable to Peyton’s, you can add “Cerebral Assassin” to the list of nicknames that Josh Dobbs has earned.
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Sorry but my work mode of email kicked in. Anything more than 2 lines I delete it.

Give me the modified version!

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GAVol said:
Still think the premise is shaky at best. Sue me for daring to disagree.
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I don't care if you disagree. You are fully entitled to disagree with my interpretation. I advanced a speculative hypothesis based on factual, statistical data and performance to date. You countered with nothing more substantive than "I categorically reject your position because I choose to do so."
 
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Very thoughtful and well written. Thanks for posting.

I might add that while watching the Vols for the past 44 years (now 61 y.o.) I don't remember hearing the announcers use the phrase "that was a called QB running play" as often as I did Saturday. We have had QBs who could run but usually only when everything broke down and they had no choice. Dobbs seems to be a departure from the typical pocket passer we normally utilize at the QB position. I just hope he doesn't get injured and continues to have success.
P.S. Sorry I exceeded the 2 line post limit.
 
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GlockVol said:
Very thoughtful and well written. Thanks for posting.

I might add that while watching the Vols for the past 44 years (now 61 y.o.) I don't remember hearing the announcers use the phrase "that was a called QB running play" as often as I did Saturday. We have had QBs who could run but usually only when everything broke down and they had no choice. Dobbs seems to be a departure from the typical pocket passer we normally utilize at the QB position. I just hope he doesn't get injured and continues to have success.
P.S. Sorry I exceeded the 2 line post limit.
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Your tenure as a Vol fan closely parallels mine (47 years) and I agree with your assessment. Several of our best mobile quarterbacks did much of their damage on the ground while scrambling, as opposed to called quarterback running plays. A classic example was the fantastic run of nearly 40 yards by Tony Robinson in the 1985 Auburn game. Condredge Holloway, on the other hand, would have made a fine wishbone quarterback, had he gone to, say, Alabama, Texas or Oklahoma.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
You know very well that Majors, Lauricella and Cafego, for that matter, were all tailbacks and, in the single wing, the tailback was both the primary ball carrier and the principal passer, although passing in that era, within the context of Neyland's offense, was very limited.

I agree, however, with your characterization of Dewey Warren as the pivotal quarterback in the transition to a modern passing offense. For the record, however, in 1965, Dewey had 79 pass attempts and 47 rushing attempts (Dewey Warren Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com). To really illustrate just how thoroughly Dickey revamped Tennessee's offense, consider the following facts: From 1950 to 1965, no Tennessee player threw more than 79 passes, completed more than 44 attempts, passed for more than 588 yds. or hurled more than 8 touchdown passes. Then, in '66, Dewey Warren attempted 229 passes, threw for 1716 yds., completed 18 touchdown passes and led the nation in passing efficiency.

During the same period, no Tennessee receiver had caught more than 23 passes or amassed more than 357 yds. receiving in a single season. Then, in 1966, Johnny Mills had 48 receptions for 725 yds. and 4 tds., including a monumental 225-yd. performance against Kentucky, which remains the 3rd most yards in a single game by a Tennessee receiver.

By analogy, you might call that transition comparable to going from a Model T Ford to a Corvette . . . in two years.
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Yeah, I mean, I said move this guy here and that guy there and you'd have...so yes I agree technically he that Majors, etc...were TB's and we can argue about the fact that he was taking a shotgun snap and he was the trigger man, he's gonna run it, hand it off, or throw it, though sometimes the center snapped it to someone else.

We agree on the rest about Warren/Dickey...It was a huge departure and I'd imagine that UT fans were worried about it at the time. Butch, Bajakian, Dobbs aren't doing anything remotely as radical, I mean this is nothing that Rich Rod wasn't doing at WV about 15 years ago...that's all I'm sayin.
 
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jlindsa4 said:
No because touchdowns do not always correlate to offensive production. Also if they ran the ball in a way unaccustomed to the way they usually run at UT... let's say he runs from the wishbone, then yes he would redefine the RB position at Tennessee. I dont know how many QBs ran from the zone read like Dobbs, but I do know the kind of production that the QBs mentioned a couple of posts ago did not have near as much production as Dobbs has had, especially running from the zone read. Therefore, since Dobbs has managed to set a record for yards ran under an offense that TN has not been accustomed to running, I think there is merit to say that Dobbs has accomplished something that may redefine the way 1. UT recruits QBs, 2. Runs the offense, and 3. the role the QB has in a game.

There you guys happy? You made me type all that.
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First, it's one game. Second, while the offense may look "new" to some UT fans it is anything but... as I said in my post, for fans used to seeing a statue in the pocket, I understand the thrill of it. Finally, If he puts up numbers like Pat White did at WVU running a similar style offense, we can call Dobbs AstroTransformer and I'll be all on board...:)

BTW that would be 6000 yards passing and almost 4500 yards rushing.
 
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Too many words to make your point. As in you could have said it in less words. Sometimes people use too many words when less will do. Like my Pa said less is more which means more is not always better. What I'm saying is don't use so many words next time. If you could say it with less you should. I ALWAYS try to get to the point and not repeat myself.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
Your tenure as a Vol fan closely parallels mine (47 years) and I agree with your assessment. Several of our best mobile quarterbacks did much of their damage on the ground while scrambling, as opposed to called quarterback running plays. A classic example was the fantastic run of nearly 40 yards by Tony Robinson in the 1985 Auburn game. Condredge Holloway, on the other hand, would have made a fine wishbone quarterback, had he gone to, say, Alabama, Texas or Oklahoma.
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I'm a tad older...I can only imagine the damage Holloway would have done taking snaps from shotgun with the players spread out like they do today...good golly!
 
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